Negotiating updates
 

I figured since all the other threads have some updates here and there, this subject merits its own thread, so outsiders and wannabes can see what we are dealing with and come in with eyes wide open.

Management has declared war on the pilot group and won’t agree to a market rate contract even before the price went up across the industry. We have the highest profit margin per seat in the INDUSTRY. I heard a chief pilot (big company guy) say in private he has no idea why the company is doing this and that he recognizes the permanent damage the company is inflicting on itself by engaging in this kind of war.

Over 1,000 days negotiating, and the company still isn’t bringing reasonable market rate proposals, or agreeing to ours. Saddle up, boys. This is going to take a while and most likely a strike attempt. If you’re on the outside contemplating coming here, you are most likely taking a pay cut to come to what used to be a good place to work, but one that I now regret coming to work for. If I wasn’t on long term leave, I’d bail in a heartbeat. Maybe this place will be good one day, but our current management has made it clear that they are willing to sacrifice the brand and employee goodwill to save pennies, even in times of leading the industry in per seat profit.

Btw, they haven’t once said they can’t afford our proposals, just that they don’t want to pay it.

I’m holding off having kids because of our shiiite health insurance. That’s the reality of working for JB. This place is an absolute dump, getting worse day by day. I wish I wouldn’t have left my regional and waited for a real airline to call. I have never been disrespected as a professional airline pilot so much as I have at this company, by management and by other work groups.

Nothing scheduled until April 10th now? Seriously?


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I Know so disappointing!!! 🤦🏻*♂️
They have hurries at all!!! ....

Hey guys, it is our first contract these things take tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiime.

Strike vote please.

How long is this framework agreement? when it expire or when is tha last day?

Yes, disappointing. I believe the Iran Nuclear deal took less than 2 years to negotiate.

Does anyone know why they go to places like Austin to meet? Wouldn’t it make sense to just alternate between DC and NY? Just curious.....

My sentiments excatly. I left a shrinking regional and if given the chance again I still would have stayed.

How anyone is still engaged with this company is amazing.

If you aren’t seriously ****ed at this point I’m not sure what will get you there.

I’m sure every single RSA got picked up today. On top of many many VDA’s.


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I don't get it either. I fly with way too many guys still that are just happy to be here and still don't get with the program.

I absolutely hate going to work these days!