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Old 03-04-2018, 01:18 PM
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Fellow Pilots,

ALPA National legal counsel has requested that the JBU MEC post this message for those of you on this forum suggesting or advocating that pilots not pick up open time, take other operational steps, or pressure others to do the same: STOP.

Your messages are very ill advised and harm rather than help your negotiating committee. Efforts such as these are counterproductive to secure the fair agreement we all deserve. Your MEC does not support them.

If you are found in violation of the Railway Labor Act by supporting, inciting, or participating in a concerted effort to disrupt JetBlue Airways, you could put your union and fellow pilots’ bargaining strategy in jeopardy. You may potentially be held personally and professionally liable for your actions on this forum. You could also subject yourself to discipline or discharge. Do not think that your online anonymity is guaranteed.

We do not want you to jeopardize our collective interests or your career on the false premise that adding pressure to the company by resorting to illegal activity will result in a favorable outcome.

Lastly, other then this post, the MEC will not be using this forum as a form of communications.

Fraternally,

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Old 03-04-2018, 01:19 PM
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We are all frustrated at the current pace...

Be safe. Fly sop.
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Old 03-04-2018, 03:14 PM
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Fellow Pilots,

ALPA National legal counsel has requested that the JBU MEC post this message for those of you on this forum suggesting or advocating that pilots not pick up open time, take other operational steps, or pressure others to do the same: STOP.

Your messages are very ill advised and harm rather than help your negotiating committee. Efforts such as these are counterproductive to secure the fair agreement we all deserve. Your MEC does not support them.

If you are found in violation of the Railway Labor Act by supporting, inciting, or participating in a concerted effort to disrupt JetBlue Airways, you could put your union and fellow pilots’ bargaining strategy in jeopardy. You may potentially be held personally and professionally liable for your actions on this forum. You could also subject yourself to discipline or discharge. Do not think that your online anonymity is guaranteed.

We do not want you to jeopardize our collective interests or your career on the false premise that adding pressure to the company by resorting to illegal activity will result in a favorable outcome.

Lastly, other then this post, the MEC will not be using this forum as a form of communications.

Fraternally,

JBU MEC VC.
While you’re at it, never be part of the forum that uses your real name and traceable email.
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:14 PM
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While you’re at it, never be part of the forum that uses your real name and traceable email.
lol, yea they could never trace your IP otherwise
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Old 03-04-2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
Fellow Pilots,

ALPA National legal counsel has requested that the JBU MEC post this message for those of you on this forum suggesting or advocating that pilots not pick up open time, take other operational steps, or pressure others to do the same: STOP.

Your messages are very ill advised and harm rather than help your negotiating committee. Efforts such as these are counterproductive to secure the fair agreement we all deserve. Your MEC does not support them.

If you are found in violation of the Railway Labor Act by supporting, inciting, or participating in a concerted effort to disrupt JetBlue Airways, you could put your union and fellow pilots’ bargaining strategy in jeopardy. You may potentially be held personally and professionally liable for your actions on this forum. You could also subject yourself to discipline or discharge. Do not think that your online anonymity is guaranteed.

We do not want you to jeopardize our collective interests or your career on the false premise that adding pressure to the company by resorting to illegal activity will result in a favorable outcome.

Lastly, other then this post, the MEC will not be using this forum as a form of communications.

Fraternally,

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Dont get much clearer than that!

Fly SOP, FARs and with common sense safety. Dont fly tired just because there is more money in it.
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Old 03-04-2018, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
Fellow Pilots,

ALPA National legal counsel has requested that the JBU MEC post this message for those of you on this forum suggesting or advocating that pilots not pick up open time, take other operational steps, or pressure others to do the same: STOP.

Your messages are very ill advised and harm rather than help your negotiating committee. Efforts such as these are counterproductive to secure the fair agreement we all deserve. Your MEC does not support them.

If you are found in violation of the Railway Labor Act by supporting, inciting, or participating in a concerted effort to disrupt JetBlue Airways, you could put your union and fellow pilots’ bargaining strategy in jeopardy. You may potentially be held personally and professionally liable for your actions on this forum. You could also subject yourself to discipline or discharge. Do not think that your online anonymity is guaranteed.

We do not want you to jeopardize our collective interests or your career on the false premise that adding pressure to the company by resorting to illegal activity will result in a favorable outcome.

Lastly, other then this post, the MEC will not be using this forum as a form of communications.

Fraternally,

JBU MEC VC.
Yeah the MEC is right here. Don't need the same issues the Spirit guys had. We should all be careful how our frustrated posts could be taken, myself included. Will let the MEC do my speaking from here out. We can advocate SOP and not violating it in the interest of "helping out" but potentially advocating job actions is a bad path for our group.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
Fellow Pilots,

ALPA National legal counsel has requested that the JBU MEC post this message for those of you on this forum suggesting or advocating that pilots not pick up open time, take other operational steps, or pressure others to do the same: STOP.

Your messages are very ill advised and harm rather than help your negotiating committee. Efforts such as these are counterproductive to secure the fair agreement we all deserve. Your MEC does not support them.

If you are found in violation of the Railway Labor Act by supporting, inciting, or participating in a concerted effort to disrupt JetBlue Airways, you could put your union and fellow pilots’ bargaining strategy in jeopardy. You may potentially be held personally and professionally liable for your actions on this forum. You could also subject yourself to discipline or discharge. Do not think that your online anonymity is guaranteed.

We do not want you to jeopardize our collective interests or your career on the false premise that adding pressure to the company by resorting to illegal activity will result in a favorable outcome.

Lastly, other then this post, the MEC will not be using this forum as a form of communications.

Fraternally,

JBU MEC VC.
With respect to the MEC message:

I have to agree.

As much as I have expressed my dissatisfaction with the pace of negotiations, I have very intentionally avoided publicly calling for shaming of the RSA/VDA girls. I have avoided calling for 3 engine taxi's or write up campaigns. I have avoided publicly calling for sick calls or unwarranted fatigue calls. I have avoided publicly instructing JB pilots to disrupt the daily operations.

I suggest you all do the same.

This company is executing it's business strategy very well. They are number *one* in profit per passenger. They have the number 1 or 2 balance sheet in the business. They have one of the top and sometimes the top profit margin in the industry. They have a completion factor that is completely acceptable to the company. They are accomplishing all of this with our current rates of pay and work rules. They literally have NO, NONE or in JB speak NONE WHATSOEVER reason or intention of signing a market rate contract that will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars with NO BENEFIT to the company (in their mind).

They would literally prefer to litigate this pilot group into a corner/cause additional delay vs negotiate a market rate contract. So do not give them an opportunity by publicly calling for job actions that may harm their business.

Respectfully,

BD
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:06 PM
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With respect to the MEC message:

I have to agree.

As much as I have expressed my dissatisfaction with the pace of negotiations, I have very intentionally avoided publicly calling for shaming of the RSA/VDA girls. I have avoided calling for 3 engine taxi's or write up campaigns. I have avoided publicly calling for sick calls or unwarranted fatigue calls. I have avoided publicly instructing JB pilots to disrupt the daily operations.

I suggest you all do the same.

This company is executing it's business strategy very well. They are number *one* in profit per passenger. They have the number 1 or 2 balance sheet in the business. They have one of the top and sometimes the top profit margin in the industry. They have a completion factor that is completely acceptable to the company. They are accomplishing all of this with our current rates of pay and work rules. They literally have NO, NONE or in JB speak NONE WHATSOEVER reason or intention of signing a market rate contract that will cost them hundreds of millions of dollars with NO BENEFIT to the company (in their mind).

They would literally prefer to litigate this pilot group into a corner/cause additional delay vs negotiate a market rate contract. So do not give them an opportunity by publicly calling for job actions that may harm their business.

Respectfully,

BD
...the "bottom line" numbers are having an adverse effect on the "nice to have" things. I agree with you in that, at this time, they don't care about the "nice to have" things. The real question is...at what point do our paying customers care?

Hey jetblue...FUPM,

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Old 03-06-2018, 12:13 PM
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This is not from the JBALPA MEC...

It’s pretty funny everyone is falling for it. If the MEC wants us to not post on here, they will send us an email through the company email, not by someone called Captcoolhand?

With that said, fly your schedule, nothing more, nothing less! It’s pretty simple if we want a contract!!!
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Old 03-06-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Hercbubba View Post
This is not from the JBALPA MEC...

It’s pretty funny everyone is falling for it. If the MEC wants us to not post on here, they will send us an email through the company email, not by someone called Captcoolhand?

With that said, fly your schedule, nothing more, nothing less! It’s pretty simple if we want a contract!!!
The original post came from Bluepilots and Dario Miranda posted it himself.
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