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#61
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#62
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
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Well, I just found out about B6Direct.com after reading...
New York Governor Cuomo Steps Into Union Campaign To Organize JetBlue Flight Attendants
It's amazing how far BJ will go...
In any case, I'm not surprised if BJ really is behind this website. What I am amazed is how a politician is supporting the FA union so forwardly. Maybe B6ALPA needs to use Governor Cuomo as a mouthpiece for getting people to understand why pilots are worth so much:
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
New York Governor Cuomo Steps Into Union Campaign To Organize JetBlue Flight Attendants
It's amazing how far BJ will go...
- At the bottom of the website "#KeepB6Direct, B6Direct.com & TWUExposed.com are created, funded, and managed by JetBlue Inflight Crewmembers in support of keeping the direct relationship. This website and/or posts are not affiliated, operated, or sponsored by Inflight Leadership or JetBlue. The views expressed are those of our own and not on behalf of JetBlue." --- Yeah right!
- They appear to be aware of legalisms, which is rare for an enthusiast website "© 2018 B6Direct.com". I wonder what they would do if the FAs set up a "realB6Direct.com"? Who would sue the copyright infringer? I wonder if they have a shield company running the website.
- I remember when United sued "Untied", which was a website set up to show all of United's problems. Now untied.com displays "For more than 20 years, Untied.com has provided air travelers with information about United Airlines, including how the airline treats its passengers and employees, resources to help maintain their rights, and a public database for posting and reading complaints about experiences with the airline. In 2012, United Airlines sued Dr. Jeremy Cooperstock, the maintainer of this website, in an effort to stop him from making these resources available. On June 23, 2017, a Canadian Federal Court judge found that an injunction was warranted against Dr. Cooperstock’s activities.
While Cooperstock pursues his legal options, Untied.com will not be providing the resources described above. If you’d like to help, please consider donating to Untied.com’s legal defence fund.
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- I remember when United sued "Untied", which was a website set up to show all of United's problems. Now untied.com displays "For more than 20 years, Untied.com has provided air travelers with information about United Airlines, including how the airline treats its passengers and employees, resources to help maintain their rights, and a public database for posting and reading complaints about experiences with the airline. In 2012, United Airlines sued Dr. Jeremy Cooperstock, the maintainer of this website, in an effort to stop him from making these resources available. On June 23, 2017, a Canadian Federal Court judge found that an injunction was warranted against Dr. Cooperstock’s activities.
- Meet the team ? B6 Direct So it appears they all have status in the company and therefore are getting special treatment.
In any case, I'm not surprised if BJ really is behind this website. What I am amazed is how a politician is supporting the FA union so forwardly. Maybe B6ALPA needs to use Governor Cuomo as a mouthpiece for getting people to understand why pilots are worth so much:
- 10+ yrs of training/education. Encyclopedia Britannica depth of knowledge over a lifetime.
- Yearly testing.
- Exposure to toxic chemicals.
- Exposure to biological contagions.
- Exposure to solar radiation.
- Unhealthy non-circadian rhythm lifestyles.
- Stressful commutes.
- Commuting Is Bad for Your Body and Health | Time
- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ess-doesnt-pay
- And this is just for PowerPoint rangers who fly desks! Imagine how bad it is for 2-leg redeye commutes!
- Time away from home and family.
- Highly stressful job
- https://www.cbsnews.com/media/9-most...obs-in-2018/8/
- Airline pilots are #3 but enlisted military is #1. What if the pilot is still in the reserves and is a military pilot and officer? So airline pilot is arguably floating between #1 and #3.
- Very dangerous profession.
- https://www.bankrate.com/finance/per...1.aspx#slide=4
- https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-10-mo...rous-jobs.html
- Looks like airline pilots have the #3 most deadly job (doesn't appear to include military)
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
#63
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Long time lurker; new poster. With all due respect, queue, you should not underestimate the cognitive ability or savvy attributes of some front line crews in this industry, or any for that matter. Not all are simply 'clock punchers' who are uneducated and working just for a paycheck. Some are nurses, retired teachers, business students, MBAs, entrepreneurs, retired C-Suite execs who just want something to do, etc., etc., etc. I myself am one of these. And I am not a FA. I am CSR. Educated at the MA level. Business owner. But enough about my qual set. The fact is that just because a site is beautifully and professionally designed and well thought-out from a legality standpoint does not automatically make it from the company. Of the 5,000+ FAs at "BJ" as you say, not every single one is pro-union. Hard to believe, but some are in favor of the direct relationship. It is quite possible that some of them decided to group together and launch a site. Maybe some are professional web designers/graphic artists on the side. Maybe some have legal backgrounds. Maybe some have lawyer friends. Life is funny; don't make such assumptions. Don't be ignorant. You want to see a site directly from the "BJ"? keepourculture.com
#64
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Long time lurker; new poster. With all due respect, queue, you should not underestimate the cognitive ability or savvy attributes of some front line crews in this industry, or any for that matter. Not all are simply 'clock punchers' who are uneducated and working just for a paycheck. Some are nurses, retired teachers, business students, MBAs, entrepreneurs, retired C-Suite execs who just want something to do, etc., etc., etc. I myself am one of these. And I am not a FA. I am CSR. Educated at the MA level. Business owner. But enough about my qual set.
The fact is that just because a site is beautifully and professionally designed and well thought-out from a legality standpoint does not automatically make it from the company. Of the 5,000+ FAs at "BJ" as you say, not every single one is pro-union. Hard to believe, but some are in favor of the direct relationship. It is quite possible that some of them decided to group together and launch a site. Maybe some are professional web designers/graphic artists on the side. Maybe some have legal backgrounds. Maybe some have lawyer friends. Life is funny; don't make such assumptions. Don't be ignorant. You want to see a site directly from the "BJ"? keepourculture.com
Of course there are individuals who are not pro-union. In a roundabout way, I am not also. However, you cannot make the claim that the majority of front-line people are happy working at BJ nor are they adequately compensated in terms of quality of life and pay. These are simply inconvenient facts to what b6direct.com claims. If I'm wrong, then what is your explanation of having one union and a second one impending? Wasn't this a function of free-will from frontline employees? How do you explain this phenomena?
It's entirely possible the site is run by just crewmembers. However, it's more likely that it's part of BJ's playbook, which has the M.O. of the consulting firm they hired (the "union buster"). I hope it's not a shock to you that people have opinions. But, I will also offer that the majority of the individuals on the Contact Us page have been there for quite some time and they undoubtedly have top-cover. Believe what you want, but the majority of these individuals are not the typical front line workers.
Contact us ? B6 Direct
Here is what the real front line workers think about BJ.
https://www.comparably.com/companies/jetblue-airways
If you honestly want to keep a "direct relationship", and you probably believe in your cause, then you have to be accountable to the opinions of everyone else. I would really like you to answer the mail on the vast majority of unfavorable comments from real frontline workers giving real opinions. I think the "direct relationship" approved phrase is an indefensible position. I would really like to know how you could logically support the "direct relationship". How is BJ going to be the world's only exception to the rule, particularly since they already abused the direct relationship arrangement for years to the point where the majority of employees now have a historical and logical reason to oppose it.
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
#65
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Long time lurker; new poster. With all due respect, queue, you should not underestimate the cognitive ability or savvy attributes of some front line crews in this industry, or any for that matter. Not all are simply 'clock punchers' who are uneducated and working just for a paycheck. Some are nurses, retired teachers, business students, MBAs, entrepreneurs, retired C-Suite execs who just want something to do, etc., etc., etc. I myself am one of these. And I am not a FA. I am CSR. Educated at the MA level. Business owner. But enough about my qual set. The fact is that just because a site is beautifully and professionally designed and well thought-out from a legality standpoint does not automatically make it from the company. Of the 5,000+ FAs at "BJ" as you say, not every single one is pro-union. Hard to believe, but some are in favor of the direct relationship. It is quite possible that some of them decided to group together and launch a site. Maybe some are professional web designers/graphic artists on the side. Maybe some have legal backgrounds. Maybe some have lawyer friends. Life is funny; don't make such assumptions. Don't be ignorant. You want to see a site directly from the "BJ"? keepourculture.com
#67
Long time lurker; new poster. With all due respect, queue, you should not underestimate the cognitive ability or savvy attributes of some front line crews in this industry, or any for that matter. Not all are simply 'clock punchers' who are uneducated and working just for a paycheck. Some are nurses, retired teachers, business students, MBAs, entrepreneurs, retired C-Suite execs who just want something to do, etc., etc., etc. I myself am one of these. And I am not a FA. I am CSR. Educated at the MA level. Business owner. But enough about my qual set. The fact is that just because a site is beautifully and professionally designed and well thought-out from a legality standpoint does not automatically make it from the company. Of the 5,000+ FAs at "BJ" as you say, not every single one is pro-union. Hard to believe, but some are in favor of the direct relationship. It is quite possible that some of them decided to group together and launch a site. Maybe some are professional web designers/graphic artists on the side. Maybe some have legal backgrounds. Maybe some have lawyer friends. Life is funny; don't make such assumptions. Don't be ignorant. You want to see a site directly from the "BJ"? keepourculture.com