JetBlue finally has come to the table
#162
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
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Rates are nothing without rules
#163
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,860
HAVE JB PILOTS PAY, WORK RULES AND BENEFITS BEEN MAKING THE INDUSTRY PROUD THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OR HAVE WE BEEN AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM???
Actually defend your drive-by garbage sandwiches for once.
#166
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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Can you try and complete an argument just once? What did I say that was untrue?
HAVE JB PILOTS PAY, WORK RULES AND BENEFITS BEEN MAKING THE INDUSTRY PROUD THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OR HAVE WE BEEN AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM???
Actually defend your drive-by garbage sandwiches for once.
HAVE JB PILOTS PAY, WORK RULES AND BENEFITS BEEN MAKING THE INDUSTRY PROUD THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OR HAVE WE BEEN AT OR NEAR THE BOTTOM???
Actually defend your drive-by garbage sandwiches for once.
#167
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,132
Too many people were too happy with the smoke & mirrors PEA which I consider to be worthless, since it always ends in arbitration (bribed by the company). 3A proves my point.
NO COMPROMISES.
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
#168
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,860
As I’m sure you would agree there is stuff to be proud of. We had one of the highest Alpa votes ever, had a huge turnout in the freaking freezing cold to march on LSC, we have driven some culture changes here. We are sitting here with an AIP and were the first group to unionize at jetblue, from what I understand we were about to have another rather large rally. So while we most likely could have done this faster and should have voted in ALPA long ago I think in those areas we can be proud about our position in the industry. That’s not directed at you bluedriver, just me being me.
But I did ask specifically about our pay, work rules and benefits.
How have they been the last several years compared to our peers?
You think it's totally fair for a JB pilot to talk down to a former Airtran pilot about being the "Mesa of the Majors"?
#169
We shall see... I'm not trusting till the final verbiage is available because it's negotiated by airline pilots who have a false sense of normalcy. Whether they acknowledge it or not, the are beaten down and already accustomed to low standards. Everyone around them (e.g. national ALPA and other pilots) breed a culture of unnecessary compromise. They already brushed me off when I mentioned some legalisms I wanted to see in the contract.
Too many people were too happy with the smoke & mirrors PEA which I consider to be worthless, since it always ends in arbitration (bribed by the company). 3A proves my point.
NO COMPROMISES.
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
Too many people were too happy with the smoke & mirrors PEA which I consider to be worthless, since it always ends in arbitration (bribed by the company). 3A proves my point.
NO COMPROMISES.
This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.
Thats a serious question, since it would appear you are already a NO.
#170
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
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