JetBlue finally has come to the table
06-18-2018, 10:48 AM
#501
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Mediator, not arbitrator. Big difference. I am glad to hear you agree with me about secrecy not being required. We need to accept the fact that the NMB works for big business. Its sole purpose is now to keep us from striking. So honestly, who cares what the mediator thinks? He is effectively the enemy.
We need to adjust our tactics knowing self help is highly unlikely under even the most egregious contracts *cough* spirit *cough*.
Public negotiations. We could plaster their lowball offers all over picket signs. It would cause labor unrest. It might effect staffing. All the tools we have left under the RLA.
We need to adjust our tactics knowing self help is highly unlikely under even the most egregious contracts *cough* spirit *cough*.
Public negotiations. We could plaster their lowball offers all over picket signs. It would cause labor unrest. It might effect staffing. All the tools we have left under the RLA.
The mediator was an ALPA member and committee chairman at Northwest ALPA!
I get that this is your first contract cycle and it's confusing, but check your anger with some facts, dude.
06-18-2018, 10:54 AM
#502
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Well then I guess we just have a disagreement on how aggressive our tactics should have been. I personally don't think a billboard that reads "Alaska -1%, $248/hour" would have much of an effect on Route 1A in Revere,MA.....average household income $35,000/yr.
You can say things like "Jetblue wants its pilots to fly across the country without food. Jetblue wants to pay its pilots less than every other airline. Jetblue code shares are undermining US jobs. Jetblue wants its pilots to be janitors."
Lots of ways to skin a cat.
06-18-2018, 10:55 AM
#503
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Originally Posted by jtrain609
The mediator is the enemy?
The mediator was an ALPA member and committee chairman at Northwest ALPA!
I get that this is your first contract cycle and it's confusing, but check your anger with some facts, dude.
The mediator was an ALPA member and committee chairman at Northwest ALPA!
I get that this is your first contract cycle and it's confusing, but check your anger with some facts, dude.
06-18-2018, 11:08 AM
#505
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Yeah, I have to credit 1300 hours a year just to break even because of the loss of PTO sellback. Im anxious to read the rest of the agreement so that maybe there will be somewhere where I can make that up.
What a ****ing joke.
What a ****ing joke.
06-18-2018, 11:10 AM
#507
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Kewl. Show me the law that requires secret negotiations. I'll wait.
Heck even the MEC didn’t know exactly what the NC was working on.
If you want things to take even longer allow every LEC rep to put their finger into it and see how long it takes. Secret or not they get a chance to veto it and so do you.
06-18-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
It doesn't matter what the public thinks of our pay. We shouldn't be trying to convince them we need a raise. They have zero say in the process, except with their wallets.
You can say things like "Jetblue wants its pilots to fly across the country without food. Jetblue wants to pay its pilots less than every other airline. Jetblue code shares are undermining US jobs. Jetblue wants its pilots to be janitors."
Lots of ways to skin a cat.
You can say things like "Jetblue wants its pilots to fly across the country without food. Jetblue wants to pay its pilots less than every other airline. Jetblue code shares are undermining US jobs. Jetblue wants its pilots to be janitors."
Lots of ways to skin a cat.
06-18-2018, 12:19 PM
#510
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Originally Posted by nuball5
I think "three years no contract" was adequate in sending the message. There's a certain level of decorum that I think ALPA expects out of our MEC, so some of those messages might cross some sort of line. I mean we could've had someone on the MEC yell on a megaphone during our January picket, but they told us all to be silent.
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