AIP.
05-17-2018, 06:25 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Not yet. Everyone was screaming for bullet points which leads to this. As you know it’s about what’s really in the contract. Like others I’m waiting to read it.
There are some good things, for sure. There are also some things I don't think I can agree to. I'll read the whole thing first, of course and weigh it all on balance.
But today's profit sharing plan???? Are you KIDDING me?
05-17-2018, 06:33 AM
#12
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
The contract will support the Bullet points. The language won't change a 2% raise or improve upon TODAYS shat profit sharing plan.
There are some good things, for sure. There are also some things I don't think I can agree to. I'll read the whole thing first, of course and weigh it all on balance.
But today's profit sharing plan???? Are you KIDDING me?
There are some good things, for sure. There are also some things I don't think I can agree to. I'll read the whole thing first, of course and weigh it all on balance.
But today's profit sharing plan???? Are you KIDDING me?
I see lots of improvements that we needed. I still need to see the full TA to make my decision. It looks like one thing we had to compromise on was profit sharing. I am not happy about that, but this needs to be a FULL TA vote, period. The new Vacation/PTO language is another that I need to see. I am happy with the rates, scope, and 5 hour day rig.
Oh, and window or aisle seat for deadheads?? I really hope we did not give up something for that.
Overall, I think the NC did a great job and I can't wait to see the FULL TA to come to my decision and vote accordingly.
05-17-2018, 06:41 AM
#13
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
I agree with you here.
I see lots of improvements that we needed. I still need to see the full TA to make my decision. It looks like one thing we had to compromise on was profit sharing. I am not happy about that, but this needs to be a FULL TA vote, period. The new Vacation/PTO language is another that I need to see. I am happy with the rates, scope, and 5 hour day rig.
Oh, and window or aisle seat for deadheads?? I really hope we did not give up something for that.
Overall, I think the NC did a great job and I can't wait to see the FULL TA to come to my decision and vote accordingly.
I see lots of improvements that we needed. I still need to see the full TA to make my decision. It looks like one thing we had to compromise on was profit sharing. I am not happy about that, but this needs to be a FULL TA vote, period. The new Vacation/PTO language is another that I need to see. I am happy with the rates, scope, and 5 hour day rig.
Oh, and window or aisle seat for deadheads?? I really hope we did not give up something for that.
Overall, I think the NC did a great job and I can't wait to see the FULL TA to come to my decision and vote accordingly.
Overall, I’m underwhelmed.
05-17-2018, 06:48 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by JBPA
You realize it’s an average 5 hour/day rig, right?
Overall, I’m underwhelmed.
Overall, I’m underwhelmed.
What kills me is we agreed to this after ONE PICKET. Finally we were unified for the summer of love and they drop this turd on us.
05-17-2018, 06:53 AM
#15
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
Taking this oportunity to update my apps.
What kills me is we agreed to this after ONE PICKET. Finally we were unified for the summer of love and they drop this turd on us.
What kills me is we agreed to this after ONE PICKET. Finally we were unified for the summer of love and they drop this turd on us.
05-17-2018, 07:21 AM
#17
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You guys on here are truely entertaining! LOL. They have only released bullet points! Cost neutral? How can you determine that with bullet points? I am just glad I can make my own decision based on the road shows and the full language. I truely hope everyone does that. It most certainly will not be based on what anyone says on a forum! LOL, thanks for the entertainment tho, it’s nice!
05-17-2018, 07:25 AM
#19
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These are bulletpoint with a whole lot of missing language. Love how the people on this forum demand information just a few days ago, then when they get it they then interpret it how they see fit before seeing the full contract.
I'm not blown away by the bullet points, but I'm not totally disappointed either. Again, I'll wait until the full language is out to decide whether it's worth a Yes or No vote.
I'm not blown away by the bullet points, but I'm not totally disappointed either. Again, I'll wait until the full language is out to decide whether it's worth a Yes or No vote.
05-17-2018, 07:27 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by United uhhh
I do not see any premium pay opportunities. The only thing mentioned was "at company discretion" You know that will never get turned on, kind of like all the grey areas in the FSM 2010
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