Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2614367)

The fact is Jetblue is not attracting the best and brightest. Again, these are facts. Does it mean some pilots hired here COULD go elsewhere, sure it does. The reality is Jetblue is actively targeting very low time pilots through targeted selection that cannot be hired elsewhere or who don't intend to leave. Using a regional pilot as an example Jetblue is targeting the 3000TT
First Officer while Delta is targeting the

10,000TT Captain.

Any of you who flew at the regionals when the 250TT pilots were being hired understand the difference between qualified and meeting the minimums.

If the training at Jetblue was robust enough to cover the shortfall then this discussion would be different.

No one is attacking the low time pilots. Its certainly not their fault. If any of us would have been given a job at Delta with 3000TT we'd gladly have taken it. Truth is Jetblue is not set up for low time pilots and these pilots put a tremendous amount of pressure on captains.

Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2614367)

The fact is Jetblue is not attracting the best and brightest. Again, these are facts. Does it mean some pilots hired here COULD go elsewhere, sure it does. The reality is Jetblue is actively targeting very low time pilots through targeted selection that cannot be hired elsewhere or who don't intend to leave. Using a regional pilot as an example Jetblue is targeting the 3000TT First Officer while Delta is targeting the 10,000TT Captain.

Any of you who flew at the regionals when the 250TT pilots were being hired understand the difference between qualified and meeting the minimums.

If the training at Jetblue was robust enough to cover the shortfall then this discussion would be different.

No one is attacking the low time pilots. Its certainly not their fault. If any of us would have been given a job at Delta with 3000TT we'd gladly have taken it. Truth is Jetblue is not set up for low time pilots and these pilots put a tremendous amount of pressure on captains.

Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2614367)

The fact is Jetblue is not attracting the best and brightest. Again, these are facts. Does it mean some pilots hired here COULD go elsewhere, sure it does. The reality is Jetblue is actively targeting very low time pilots through targeted selection that cannot be hired elsewhere or who don't intend to leave. Using a regional pilot as an example Jetblue is targeting the 3000TT First Officer while Delta is targeting the 10,000TT Captain.

Any of you who flew at the regionals when the 250TT pilots were being hired understand the difference between qualified and meeting the minimums.

If the training at Jetblue was robust enough to cover the shortfall then this discussion would be different.

No one is attacking the low time pilots. Its certainly not their fault. If any of us would have been given a job at Delta with 3000TT we'd gladly have taken it. Truth is Jetblue is not set up for low time pilots and these pilots put a tremendous amount of pressure on captains.

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2614716)

This is some of the biggest fake news and BS "facts" I have ever read on here. Totally false.....I know it sounds good to say but nothing more than "fake news".......carry on with your lies and falsehoods.

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2614716)

This is some of the biggest fake news and BS "facts" I have ever read on here. Totally false.....I know it sounds good to say but nothing more than "fake news".......carry on with your lies and falsehoods.

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2614716)

This is some of the biggest fake news and BS "facts" I have ever read on here. Totally false.....I know it sounds good to say but nothing more than "fake news".......carry on with your lies and falsehoods.

Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2614838)

If we are still able to get quality pilots to throw their careers away working here much of the credit goes to you Hyper.

Originally Posted by hyperboy (Post 2614716)

This is some of the biggest fake news and BS "facts" I have ever read on here. Totally false.....I know it sounds good to say but nothing more than "fake news".......carry on with your lies and falsehoods.

Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2614862)

No sir, not at all.

Next time you have the opportunity speak with someone in hiring. They aren’t shy about the pilots they are targeting.

Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2614862)

No sir, not at all.

Next time you have the opportunity speak with someone in hiring. They aren’t shy about the pilots they are targeting.

Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2614970)

Hate to break it to you champ, but very few grow up wanting to work at the likes of Jetblue, Spirit, Frontier, Virgin, Alligeant, name any regional airline. We work at these places because we can't make it happen at a tier 1 airline. Some are victims of timing, others completely socially inept.

Jetblue it targeting those who, for the most part, won't make it. Just as they 'always' have.

Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 2615018)

I’m actually making the same point as you.

Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2614970)

Hate to break it to you champ, but very few grow up wanting to work at the likes of Jetblue, Spirit, Frontier, Virgin, Alligeant, name any regional airline. We work at these places because we can't make it happen at a tier 1 airline. Some are victims of timing, others completely socially inept.

Jetblue it targeting those who, for the most part, won't make it. Just as they 'always' have.

Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2614970)

Hate to break it to you champ, but very few grow up wanting to work at the likes of Jetblue, Spirit, Frontier, Virgin, Alligeant, name any regional airline. We work at these places because we can't make it happen at a tier 1 airline. Some are victims of timing, others completely socially inept.

Jetblue it targeting those who, for the most part, won't make it. Just as they 'always' have.

Originally Posted by Rascal (Post 2615108)

How could a Major airline know that a pilot is socially inept without interviewing the individual? Every single person in my class was tier 1 airline material. As far I know, everyone is trying to leave but most are not getting the call (myself included).

Based on Delta's own hiring statistics, they prefer less experienced and younger pilots. People that got stuck in the regionals during the lost decade are not getting the call. The mantra that a pilot that works at JetBlue is somehow inferior is simply false.