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queue 07-04-2018 04:53 PM

May 2018 B6 Results
 
Superior Results
Inferior TA (pay)


Why are we settling for table scraps again?


We desperately need TA 2.0.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/418...eading-way-may

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uplo...799_origin.png

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PasserOGas 07-04-2018 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2627881)
Superior Results
Inferior TA (pay)


Why are we settling for table scraps again?


We desperately need TA 2.0.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/418...eading-way-may

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uplo...799_origin.png

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We are "tier 2". Duh. Delta flies magic airplanes where the bleed system generates profit sharing checks.

queue 07-04-2018 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by PasserOGas (Post 2627970)
We are "tier 2". Duh. Delta flies magic airplanes where the bleed system generates profit sharing checks.


Delta has proven that you can't have pay and rules, at the same time....


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LoudFastRules 07-05-2018 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2627971)
Delta has proven that you can't have pay and rules, at the same time....


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Delta is the LEAST productive pilot group out there. Funny, you'd think that would mean they'd be lowest paid.....

Meanwhile, over in blue town: We're amongst the most productive pilot groups, and our airplanes barely have time to cool down. Yup, I guess that's why we deserve to be 6 out of 6.

expectholding 07-05-2018 10:19 AM

https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/309...r-half-of-2018

Some analysts have a different view.

JetBlue Airways Corporation (JBLU - Free Report) is a low-cost carrier based in Long Island City, New York. The company carries a Zacks Rank #4 (Sell). The stock has seen the Zacks Consensus Estimate for current-quarter earnings being revised 2.4% downward in the last 60 days. The JetBlue stock has shed 15% of its value in the first half of the year.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...t-structu.aspx

The TA represents 187% of the $100m in additional pilot costs that analysts put us at achieving in January. ($750m/4yrs).

queue 07-05-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by expectholding (Post 2628286)
https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/309...r-half-of-2018

Some analysts have a different view.

JetBlue Airways Corporation (JBLU - Free Report) is a low-cost carrier based in Long Island City, New York. The company carries a Zacks Rank #4 (Sell). The stock has seen the Zacks Consensus Estimate for current-quarter earnings being revised 2.4% downward in the last 60 days. The JetBlue stock has shed 15% of its value in the first half of the year.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...t-structu.aspx

The TA represents 187% of the $100m in additional pilot costs that analysts put us at achieving in January. ($750m/4yrs).


Depends on how you look at it... these same "analysts" also said far worse things about Amazon and a plethora of various companies that now changed the entire paradigm of Capitalism, even beyond the monopolies of Standard Oil and AT&T. They are measuring with their Harvard MBA or Economics degree yardsticks as they were taught. Those measuring devices have not been accurate at all in the last 10 years and no one call see the future yet. Fundamentally BJ is a strong company with sound internals, despite their buffoonery. We have a product, people want it. Otherwise we wouldn't have such good monetary results. Incidentally, I've seen a fair number of enthusiast investor websites (like Motley Fool you referenced), which say to buy BJ at these low prices. In the end, it's going to Vegas no matter how much pseudo-math they attach to it. The company is making lots of $$$.



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flyboygt 07-09-2018 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by queue (Post 2627881)
Superior Results
Inferior TA (pay)


Why are we settling for table scraps again?


We desperately need TA 2.0.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/418...eading-way-may

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uplo...799_origin.png

This communique is for entertainment purposes only. It does not implicitly or explicitly acknowledge employment with any air carrier nor is any relationship implied. This communique does not represent the opinions or policies of ALPA or JB ALPA and does not represent the collective pilot group, ALPA, nor does it imply collective bargaining, advocacy, or workforce actions intended to disrupt operations.

Poor representation.
This graph represents current actual data under a PEA not implied TA 1.0/2.0 data. Once the realization of the full contact goes into effect (1/1/2020) CASM will bring our graph down to the same levels as all the rest.
They are throwing it in your face that you currently work for scraps while you constantly beat down a contract that gives you a lot more that you currently get.


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