I voted YES.

I discussed my concerns about specific provisions here and with reps openly, and I feel we could have possibly (maybe, maybe not) pushed harder in May for additional value, but ultimately since "going back to May and staying at the table" isn't on the ballet, I thought YES was the best option considering all "likely outcomes" of YES or NO.

I trust our union officials, but don't trust this company or a VERY large proportion of this pilot group.

Don't care if that offends anyone, it's just reality. Too many of our guys lick windows and eat boogers and actually EXPECT to make less than our peers. Can't win a war with a "special" army.

With that said, we have some good provisions in the CBA and in one single contract at least moved into the bottom of the top tier of airline CBAs (we absolutely deserve to be in the top tier). Those other CBAs have been the result of decades of cumulative iterations and improvements.

So, we are now in 7th out of the 9 companies I consider carreer companies (Delta, United, American, Southwest, FedEx, UPS(first 6 not in order), JetBlue, Alaska,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Spirit(sorry Spirit, not a great contract).

Yes, we will all agree for the next 7-8 years or until the JCBA....

This is more of a surprise to me than the results of the TA hahahhaa.

I don't know why? I have been telling everyone here that I may vote YES.

There are those who want everyone to vote YES and have been sweeping everything under the rug that is a valid concern. They don't want to acknowledge the low points or where we are potentially exposed to harm.

There are NO voters doing the opposite.

I prefer to at least acknowledge and discuss the weak points of the CBA, that way if we all know what they are and can live with them, so be it.

I hope this union learned they need to call for a "labor dispute" much sooner next time and I hope this pilot group has learned what a labor dispute means...

There's a reason it took so many years for JB to negotiate in good faith, and we are the reason.

Hahahahaha, I see what you did there.

Hope we can find our way back to being a united pilot group. No more infighting- I hope.

Great news! A bottom feeding contract passed by a large margin!

This should go well when we start negotiating again...

See you here in 7 years when we debate another bottom of our peers TA.

"But it's such an improvement from where we are NOW!"

Earnings that quarter will suck.

New Airplanes/routes will be announced.

So predictable.

United. That would be nice.

Maybe I could be junior (or senior) to myself!😀

Gup

GP

Yeah.......not going to happen...you're talking about pilots here, remember?

Your tone towards the TA echoed a strong NO that's why. But I agree with you to be knowledgeable and highlight/discuss the shortcomings.