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Bluedriver 09-05-2018 10:09 AM

What staffing increase?
 
New system bids out, where's all that "CBA staffing"?

P-3Bubba 09-05-2018 12:39 PM

-10 BOS 320 FO? So we’re reducing flying? Or inclreasing staffing IROPS and “due to low reserve numbers” everyone’s fav RSA! Help out! Pick up! Out of base idiots picking up RSA. WAY TO GO DUMMIES!! Cash money. So easy.

What is going on at this company? Saving money? These irops are certainly exacerbated by the staffing. They cancel flight all the time because of the old crew swap-a-roo and then....uh oh NO CREWS. That’s making customers angry, our cultured crew members angry and costing a S-Load of cash. Whatever, help out and do your best to fly with your head in the sand.


-Bubs

feltf4 09-05-2018 01:04 PM

And to think that people here actually think that the company is going to be able to fully implement this contract.

... sorry not enough pilots for vacations. Sorry not enough pilots for reserve rules. Sorry not enough pilots.

Cry wolf. “Pilot shortage”

RiddleEagle18 09-05-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2668790)
New system bids out, where's all that "CBA staffing"?


The biggest driver to staffing doesn’t hit until 2020.

But you already knew that.


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pilotpayne 09-06-2018 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 2669093)
The biggest driver to staffing doesn’t hit until 2020.

But you already knew that.


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Which is why I never understand posts like that. He knows exactly what will increase staffing yet we get this.

Bluedriver 09-06-2018 04:06 AM

Well let's pick that apart. When I said, clearly, that this contract would require less staffing than most of you guys thought, I got push-back.

When said that if it does require additional staffing, it wouldn't be required for quite some time because of Vaca and reserve rules being phased in over a couple of decades. Yet, most of you would NOT publicly agree with me during the voting period.

Now we have a total of 7 Airbus FOs being added to the roster of a GROWING hull count over the next 3-6 months! That from the very FIRST system bid post CBA?!? When you grow the hull count over 6 months by about 6 airframes, and only add 7 FOs (don't know if there will be any openings on the December bid), that's a REDUCTION in staffing per hull.

cmesoar 09-06-2018 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 2669204)
Well let's pick that apart. When I said, clearly, that this contract would require less staffing than most of you guys thought, I got push-back.

When said that if it does require additional staffing, it wouldn't be required for quite some time because of Vaca and reserve rules being phased in over a couple of decades. Yet, most of you would NOT publicly agree with me during the voting period.

Now we have a total of 7 Airbus FOs being added to the roster of a GROWING hull count over the next 3-6 months! That from the very FIRST system bid post CBA?!? When you grow the hull count over 6 months by about 6 airframes, and only add 7 FOs (don't know if there will be any openings on the December bid), that's a REDUCTION in staffing per hull.

now now, Giggity will tell you that those mean and defiant ATC folk are causing this staffing problem by delaying our flights on purpose and causing our crews to time out. How could ATC do that to us? We have culture and we could share our near endless amount of growing potatoes with them... Heck, they could even come pick some on their lunch break. If I close my eyes right now, I can see the email with the pictures of our ATC friends if this actually happened!

all kidding aside, I agree with your post Bluedriver. I think these numbers are way to low and either something is in the works that we have no idea about or the next bid will need to be much larger. I just don't see us adding all these airframes and not bringing on more bodies with RSAs almost every day. They need to go hand in hand, Right?!?

SmitteyB 09-06-2018 07:22 AM

Although I find BlueDriver a very unhappy person and often shake my head at his posts, the staffing numbers do not add up.

Unless they have found with these new pairings that the overall pilots required for the operation is less than anticipated, it doesn’t make sense. Makes you wonder what kind of staffing model they have developed. More telling will be the December bid.

hilltopflyer 09-06-2018 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 2669307)
Although I find BlueDriver a very unhappy person and often shake my head at his posts, the staffing numbers do not add up.

Unless they have found with these new pairings that the overall pilots required for the operation is less than anticipated, it doesn’t make sense. Makes you wonder what kind of staffing model they have developed. More telling will be the December bid.

I hope they realize that they just can’t train people overnight...

P-3Bubba 09-06-2018 07:42 AM

Every time a bid comes out the rhetoric is “wait till next bid”! The DEC bid was right before the CBA, and that required 2 separate and VERY different staffing numbers from the same source on the same day. Talk to me about decided plans and future strategy all day, but the point is they have no idea what’s going on.

-Bubs


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