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Old 12-13-2018, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by schwa View Post
More so than in some of the other forums, the JB forum is infected by a few individuals who devote hundreds of hours and thousands of words to continually posting negative sheit no matter the topic. They do it under the pretense that they're simply revealing the "reality" of JetBlue, but nobody who spends so much time on this forum lives in reality. You won't find a reasonable answer to your question here. Try finding a few JB pilots and asking them about their experiences in person/over the phone.
Yeah, gonna have to disagree with you. You may not LIKE the information provided, but it is honest by those that express it. Others may feel differently, which is fine, but they won't usually tell us in-detail how JB offers a career value on par (it doesn't) with other airlines that are hiring.

The facts are, we have lower pay and worse benefits, have far fewer retirements and have an airline that is devoid of leadership or an actual plan for how realize it's full potential.

But yeah, the airline is actually AMAZING and there's just a few angry guys lying about it.... Not.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
Unless your commute to would be it’s own special kind of hell, go to JetBlue. Do the math. DC% is greater than Skywest 401k match and 5th year 190 FO pay beats 20 175 CA pay.... you may not even see 5th year FO pay as you’ll likely have the opportunity to bid to the 220/320 families before then.
There are other better-paying airlines hiring with much better career progression. Why isn't that part of your "calculations" and recommendations?
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
There are other better-paying airlines hiring with much better career progression. Why isn't that part of your "calculations" and recommendations?
Very few pilots outside of those leaving the military find themselves in multiple offer situations from major airlines at the same time so essentially an offer from JetBlue is a take it or leave it deal.

As far as the calculations, if there’s only one offer on the table that’s the only real comparison to be able to give. Everything else is mental masterbation but okay...

Staying at Skywest as PIC... career progression stagnates and the 5 year counter of recency airline HRs seem to like to see counts down to zero, your only options at Skywest if not an LCA are to take a pay cut by switching to a CRJ and adding a commute...

Going to JetBlue resets that fabled 5 year clock, and changing fleets from the 190 and upgrading at JetBlue also have the benefit of resetting the clock in addition to the pay raises they bring.

Resume building opportunities will occur more as a junior pilot at JetBlue vs a senior pilot at regional. Added benefit of also breaking away from a regional CA pool that most applicants to tier one airlines come from.
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
This is a crucial conversation when:
1. Stakes are high;
2. Opinions varie;
3. Emotions run strong!

Thanks for your reply.
This is almost the last place to get real advice since most that are on here talk bad but don't go anywhere....all talk. By that decision that shows you it's a great place....the persona's are tougher than in person I assure you.

This place has plenty of aircraft coming and growth, but a clearer vision would be welcome by all.

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Old 12-13-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Accept a 190 at JB or stay PIC at SkyWest on 175 home-base?
Smh. So you went through the entire interview process and now are asking yourself this question?
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiet Storm View Post
Smh. So you went through the entire interview process and now are asking yourself this question?


Are you kidding? I asked myself this question until the day I showed up in MCO for initial.


Do you have your 1000 PIC?
Where do you live/want to live?

Answer those 2 questions and you will have your answer.


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Old 12-13-2018, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
What? Seriously? Because this pilot
is trying to make the best decision he/she can and isn't drooling over JB you don't want to fly with them? Who do you want to fly with?
You don’t have to drool over an airline to make a decision. After all of they time one puts into a flying career, you can’t make THIS decision? I just don’t want to fly with someone who can’t make up their mind about such a core decision. Staying at any regional is a really dumb move. Just because you come to JB doesn’t mean you have to stay.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Quiet Storm View Post
Smh. So you went through the entire interview process and now are asking yourself this question?
I don't understand the problem. Isn't that the point of the interview process? To interview the company as they interview you? In fact, JetBlue specifically asks each candidate to interview them to be sure they are a good fit and want to be there. Seems to the OP is doing just that. Good for him/her. It's a huge decision, and interviewing at JetBlue may have provided answers the questions, but maybe there are still some left.

Originally Posted by aldonite7667 View Post
You don’t have to drool over an airline to make a decision. After all of they time one puts into a flying career, you can’t make THIS decision? I just don’t want to fly with someone who can’t make up their mind about such a core decision. Staying at any regional is a really dumb move. Just because you come to JB doesn’t mean you have to stay.

Agree to disagree. The OP would have to make the decision to commute to BOS, or JFK, and I don't know where they are coming from. No offense, but while JB may be a great option for some, it is not a top tier destination, and the OP may just as well decide to enjoy their current position until a better job comes along. That may never happen, but that's the gamble one takes. I certainly am not going to sit here and call them dumb for making a decision that fits their family best...
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov2 View Post
Accept a 190 at JB or stay PIC at SkyWest on 175 home-base?
How senior are you in base?

How hard would be it to move to a JB base?

How old are you?

Unless you're pretty senior (holidays off), or over 50, or unable to move/commute then JB should be a no-brainer.

I recently made a similar choice, but ruled out JB because of bases (lack of in the west). Most folks will be pleasently surprised at how much better a major is.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:49 PM
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Rick can chime in if off with this statement, but it would seem too that flying for JB (or any LCC/2nd tier major for that matter) would make one more likely to get a call from the big 4 relatively soon, vs staying at a regional since LCC's are competitors to the top tier majors, where as the regionals are used to help the majors make $$$.

(This all assuming one has a 4 yr degree and no/minimal background issues of course).
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