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Old 12-31-2018, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
This place only knows carrots and sticks. They have LOTS of sticks and only one carrot, which is the perpetual hinting at trans-atlantic flights. They've been teasing that one carrot for YEARS.

Each month that passes I'm more convinced it's a stinky smelly moldy rotten make-believe carrot.

As others have said, we have no A321LR's on order. We have no E-TOPS. We have no LHR landing slots.

We only have a stinky smelly moldy rotten carrot that may or may not be make-believe.
You could say the same thing about the C-series as a carrot. Many were convinced they would choose the E190-E2 when push comes to shove since it would've been cheaper to train the pilots and the lower payscale. I think they proved most people wrong (including myself) with their decision. Although one could argue they announced the A220 to get the TA over the finish line with a Yes vote due to the timing.
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:36 AM
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LHR slot might not be a must ... STN or LGW will work too (only if there are not drones flying around...lol);
ETOPS qualification is a full year long process and some ... and it starts when you have the actual planes ... so if you don't have the planes yet ...
Not only do we not have the planes, we don't even have the planes on order.
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
You could say the same thing about the C-series as a carrot. Many were convinced they would choose the E190-E2 when push comes to shove since it would've been cheaper to train the pilots and the lower payscale. I think they proved most people wrong (including myself) with their decision. Although one could argue they announced the A220 to get the TA over the finish line with a Yes vote due to the timing.

Agree.

I don’t see it as a carrot other than “growth” it’s not like it’s a big raise over what we do now or very different. We would just turn east vs west. It’s even in the same plane.

I see it as JetBlue just can’t figure out what it wants to be. Until they decide that we are are stuck with maybe.
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
You could say the same thing about the C-series as a carrot. Many were convinced they would choose the E190-E2 when push comes to shove since it would've been cheaper to train the pilots and the lower payscale. I think they proved most people wrong (including myself) with their decision. Although one could argue they announced the A220 to get the TA over the finish line with a Yes vote due to the timing.
Maybe, but the company needed to replace the E190 dumpster fire and the fact that the E2 was probably just a shinier new dumpster fire with less range and capacity than an A220 probably made that decision the RIGHT thing to do.
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Old 12-31-2018, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
They can do it if the operate like they do for the LAX/SFO Mint routes. Lots of padding in the schedule, priority for staffing FAs/pilots, MX meets every flight, etc.
It is almost like they know exactly how to improve our on time performance, but choose not to in order to save money. Like it doesn't matter to them on most routes.

Nah. That would be disingenuous of them. They would never claim that OTP is important but be lying about it. Not our benevolent leaders.
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:10 AM
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If the bigger CS300/A220 eventually gets cleared to use London City (LCY) like it’s smaller brother the CS100, then maybe JB could fill a few airframes with 40 Mint seats and serve LCY from BOS/JFK. No doubt business travelers would love it. LHR and LGW are a mess and inconvenient to the London Financial District. The A220 has the range and the performance. You never know....
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
If the bigger CS300/A220 eventually gets cleared to use London City (LCY) like it’s smaller brother the CS100, then maybe JB could fill a few airframes with 40 Mint seats and serve LCY from BOS/JFK. No doubt business travelers would love it. LHR and LGW are a mess and inconvenient to the London Financial District. The A220 has the range and the performance. You never know....
Guess who’s already received their first A220-100 and could presumably pre-empt that plan to LCY. It’s not B6 unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by n606tw View Post
LHR slot might not be a must ... STN or LGW will work too (only if there are not drones flying around...lol);
ETOPS qualification is a full year long process and some ... and it starts when you have the actual planes ... so if you don't have the planes yet ...
LHR is where the money is.
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Always money in the banana stand...
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:47 AM
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Always money in the banana stand...
Oh. A banana stand at JFK! We could grow the bananas there and call them all "locally sourced"! Jet fuel after taste is an added bonus.

Anything but focusing on running a successful airline!
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