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Old 01-20-2019, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
people keep talking about this, both on here and in person with me, but i can't find such a thing in the FSM. where is this protection in the FSM compared to the CBA?
FSM D 13

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The MEC is aware that Crew Services has been assigning pilots a shortened RAP on their first day of reserve. Their intent is to initiate the rest period early and have the reserve pilot available for an early morning RAP on their second day. FSM D 13 (which is still active as per the Implementation LOA) states that after the reserve assignment process is complete, a pilot cannot be released early from a SCR assignment without their concurrence. We ask that you monitor your RAP and rest periods closely to verify compliance with the contract and avoid any possible fatigue-inducing situations. If you have any questions or concerns about your RAP, contact Crew Services to address them.
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Old 01-21-2019, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull View Post

Thankfully i can go back to a line, but it would be 4-5 day trips including great destinations like SDQ or STI with absolute cr@p sleep schedules.

Flipping a coin.
So true. With pairing construction and the death of 10 hour 3 days (awesome on RSV) open time is ALL 4 and 5 day trips. Open time will be 85%+ 4 and 5 day trips of which 85%+ of those will have a long STI/SDQ of which 50% of those will also have a double JFK/EWR as well. Lots of STI JFK JFK and EWR EWR SDQ.

The trick to not getting called is 3 day blocks, but that’s IF you can hold it and they award it. With this all being said..in base, reserve is still the way to go unless you can control your line. I keep my blood pressure low, roll with the changes, and find “fun” in the less desirable overnight spots.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:43 AM
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do we still have the Zika list (avoiding places with Zika)? If so, how do we get on said list?
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:58 AM
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do we still have the Zika list (avoiding places with Zika)? If so, how do we get on said list?
Yes, might be able to call CS and be placed on it. Try CP office if that doesn’t work.

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Old 01-21-2019, 07:37 AM
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do we still have the Zika list (avoiding places with Zika)? If so, how do we get on said list?
Yeah email your CP to get on it. FYI Bahamas and Grand Cayman are no longer on the CDC Zika list.
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
people keep talking about this, both on here and in person with me, but i can't find such a thing in the FSM. where is this protection in the FSM compared to the CBA?

the company cannot "change" your RAP once you have been assigned a RAP, without your concurrence, either in the FSM or the CBA. but neither the FSM (that I can find) nor the CBA say that the company cannot assign you a RAP that is only 6 hours long, instead of 10, or whatever.
Fsm : D 13.2 release early today for different scr duty period tomorrow: mutual agreement is required.

Contract: R.5.d : the company will notify a short call reserve before the end of the current day's RAP , regarding any modification to the pilot's RAP for the following day...

And because of R.5.a : RAP...shall not be greater than 10 hours.
They can certainly call you and say your RAP ends right now ( less than 10)


And no mutual agreement required.

I don't want to be a negative Nancy all the time with the new reserve rules, so...

I like the auto release on the last day provision.

Bidding more than 6 days on ( curious to see how that will be implemented)

Short call assignment pass (curious again)

See, i can be positive...and i didn't just get back from ' Leading Edge'
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:31 AM
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so again, everyone is just pointing to the FSM where it says they can't CHANGE your RAP once you have been assigned a RAP. nowhere in the FSM does it say your RAP can't be less than 10 hours.
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt View Post
The trick to not getting called is 3 day blocks, but that’s IF you can hold it and they award it.
in lgb, they just break the trips up and assign them to 3 day block people. so that isn't working out.
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
in lgb, they just break the trips up and assign them to 3 day block people. so that isn't working out.
I’ve done those as well, no 4 day coverage so they have broken it. Still better than doing a 4+ day I suppose. I’ve got a stretch of 3 tomorrow and a later afternoon/early evening start. 4 day in there now that starts later..let’s see if it ends up being a 3 day.

Plus side at implementation: max 12 hour duty for trip which touches red eye period. That would have helped me a few times.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
so again, everyone is just pointing to the FSM where it says they can't CHANGE your RAP once you have been assigned a RAP. nowhere in the FSM does it say your RAP can't be less than 10 hours.
I would like ' mutual agreement' for $400 Alex.
We're obviously not on the same page ( which is good for various interptetations) . Fsm ...mutual agreement. Contract...say thank you and accept the change.

And you're correct that the fsm doesn't state RAP length.
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