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Old 02-04-2019, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Depends on where you commute from. But east of Mississippi River it isn’t terrible. Guessing 14-15 days off
Earliest I can get to JFK is around noon.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:30 PM
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How commutable are the lines on the 190 in JFK? What’s the average days off?
Pairings have been going through big changes since August and are changing again in March...so it’s hard to say. When I did it I commuted and got rid of my crashpad because I was never in it and I got all commutable stuff. I also had decent seniority fairly quickly, which I think will hold true to people hired today. Can’t vouch for commutability though...no idea what the optimizer will do in the future. Oh and I got 13-19 days off. Usually 16-17, but that could be different now.
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flysooner9 View Post
Earliest I can get to JFK is around noon.
Can’t speak for the 190; but If you get the bus, anything that shows In the afternoon has a really high chance of being a redeye.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:29 AM
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How long are guys sitting reserve on the Bus in Boston vs 190 in Boston? I know this changes constantly but if given the option I would like to know what I am getting myself into.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:34 AM
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How long are guys sitting reserve on the Bus in Boston vs 190 in Boston? I know this changes constantly but if given the option I would like to know what I am getting myself into.


Not only does it change constantly but in the last 3 classes we have hired 90 pilots. Mostly to the 190. The guys hired 4 classes ago will only sit reserve for a month or two. The guys in the most recent class will sit for a lot longer considering there is only like 70 guys on rsv in bos on the 190.

With all that said I talked to a recruiter recently who said they have the go ahead to hire over 400 this year.


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Old 02-17-2019, 06:49 AM
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Not only does it change constantly but in the last 3 classes we have hired 90 pilots. Mostly to the 190. The guys hired 4 classes ago will only sit reserve for a month or two. The guys in the most recent class will sit for a lot longer considering there is only like 70 guys on rsv in bos on the 190.

With all that said I talked to a recruiter recently who said they have the go ahead to hire over 400 this year.


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So QOL is better on the 190. With 100? guys needed for 190 reserve, to get off reserve they would have to hire 100 guys underneath me which sounds like it could take up to 4-5 months (if they keep hiring). Since the first year pay is the same I'd rather bid the 190 (sounds like I have little choice) and bid over to the bus at a year for that second year pay.

How do the seat locks work currently?
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:57 AM
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Until they fix the pay gap between the 190 and the 320, movement on the 190 will continue. If your going for QOL I would go 190. Pay is the same first year anyways.

Seat lock is only 1 year for new hires. So if you don’t like the 190 or the QOL you can bid off relatively quickly.


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Old 02-17-2019, 08:27 AM
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Unless you’re starting class with an Airbus type already, I see almost zero reason to bid the Airbus over the 190 for that first year. Maybe I’m biased being a 190 guy...but I wouldn’t touch 320-BOS until you can get about three years seniority here. Unless you like to see your seniority go backwards. JFK is a different story.
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Old 02-17-2019, 08:51 AM
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Unless you’re starting class with an Airbus type already, I see almost zero reason to bid the Airbus over the 190 for that first year. Maybe I’m biased being a 190 guy...but I wouldn’t touch 320-BOS until you can get about three years seniority here. Unless you like to see your seniority go backwards. JFK is a different story.
It's true, even much higher up the A320 right seat still mostly stagnant or backwards movement for the last several bids.

And very few A320 openings in Boston.
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
Unless you’re starting class with an Airbus type already, I see almost zero reason to bid the Airbus over the 190 for that first year. Maybe I’m biased being a 190 guy...but I wouldn’t touch 320-BOS until you can get about three years seniority here. Unless you like to see your seniority go backwards. JFK is a different story.
What’s the difference in JFK? Any reason to bid 320 initially?
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