JetBlue set to launch London to US flights
#362
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
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All of that hype and we didn't even announce it as an official blue city... Just the intent to fly there, which city, who knows, what frequency, who knows. This place... Jeez.
#364
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: B756 FO
Posts: 1,288
Saw some Instagram videos of the big announcement. Looked like a pretty wild high school pep rally in a gymnasium. “We Will Rock You” being played made it appear even more cringe worthy. I now totally get the riff between the down to earth pilots at JetBlue and the Blue Juicers.
#365
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,860
What made JetBlue a threat, was buy in from its employees. It was that extra service people did when they believed in this place. That is gone now.
Delta has its mojo thanks to the the very Nielman like idea of generous profit sharing. They are firing on all cylinders right now as everyone is pulling in the same direction so let's not toot our own horn while our managers continue to destroy our culture.
Delta has its mojo thanks to the the very Nielman like idea of generous profit sharing. They are firing on all cylinders right now as everyone is pulling in the same direction so let's not toot our own horn while our managers continue to destroy our culture.
I spend a lot of time on Delta airplanes and the DL employees are MUCH more engaged and as you say, pulling in the same direction, vs Bluemembers.
#366
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,860
Wow! What were people expecting from this meeting? Did anyone who joined JB in the last 5-10 years expect to be flying JB to London someday? Perhaps in the last few years with the rumors about London, but did anyone expect it when joining a few years back when JB was primarily a domestic and Caribbean operator? Probably very few people. So, why the let down? Back then I would never associate JB with transatlantic flying - so, I’d personally view this type of additional flying as a bonus (at least for the super senior pilots who can bid it). It just surprises me because JB is clearly not a legacy with huge route variety - we are talking apples and oranges in terms of route profiles and I would expect people to know that when they signed up.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
If you really want longhaul flying, Kalitta and Atlas are hiring. But the grass is rarely greener. I know longhaul pilots who are constantly fatigued and they are looking elsewhere.
Although clearly not easy, the Legacies are hiring quite a bit. I met a former JB 190 FO the other day who recently joined Delta on the 767ER, so, there are other ways to get that type of flying if you really want it.
There were many other stories told to pilots over the years by "leadership".
So yeah, this is all happening much slower than they *told* us it would.
Not that "leadership" promises about the future are guarantees, but you are talking about expectations, and expectations we did/do indeed have.
#367
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,860
Saw some Instagram videos of the big announcement. Looked like a pretty wild high school pep rally in a gymnasium. “We Will Rock You” being played made it appear even more cringe worthy. I now totally get the riff between the down to earth pilots at JetBlue and the Blue Juicers.
#368
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,901
Oh my. We are making this way to complex. This was the old state of the airline speech that barger used to do just with more ra ra stuff. Look they gave us some of the plans yeah it wasn’t super specific but if it was people would be like why are we saying all of our plans. Look I will be happy to complain about management but they have done a little better lately in communications. This was an internal announcement and a different way/strategic plan of JetBlue. It wasn’t long ago that people were on here saying mint would fail. Sorry this is actually good news. I know we can’t have that here but this “direction” is not a bad direction for us.
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