JFK 320 RSV schedules
03-13-2019, 09:55 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
Guys there are optimists and pessimists in the world. That’s a way of life. I hope none of you have the dumb idea of burning the house down with you in it. The happy to be here guys don’t necessarily have to be juicers and automatic yes voters but choose to have a positive outlook on things and even try to see the best in a trip everyone hates. The pessimist will see even the best position and find something wrong. I do agree the company isn’t doing any favors helping morale and you can see it in the line. I myself think I’m optimistic and rather have that as a way of life for my mental health. Within the last month I have down with guys excited and optimistic about Europe thinking it’s going to give the company direction, I have also flown with a guy that says every company that has done it has failed and we will be doomed we, should focus focus on the Midwest growth because frontier and spirit are growing. Who knows who’s right. What I do know is that they are all pilots with little to no real notion on what the plan is or should be. The problem is they’re letting that dictate how they do their job and how they feel about coming to work. Simple if you don’t like it leave. It’s never too late but the pessimist will find a problem with that too. Both of the sides literally come on here like no other forum I’ve come across to argue their points highjacking what may very well be useful information sources for others. Take a look at any of the sub forums and it turn into children arguing. All this obviously is said completely in my opinion before anyone gets offended. I know how this can get!
I don’t think the Midwest happens till we get that new basic economy they were talking about. Europe is all the mint stuff and where we have good jump points from Bos and Jfk.
We are still that same airline flying people out of JFK and BOS to places we could make the most money and I think that points to Europe right now. The other thing is it would help diversify us so if Domestic flying is down Europe can help. If you look at the big guys that’s what tends to happen. I think it’s a logical step for us but like others I would just like some kind of plan.....pilots like plans.
03-23-2019, 03:48 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
Great question. Please reach out to ALPA scheduling and get back to us.
On the surface, I think you are right, but the ALPA scheduling team should be your first stop.
On the surface, I think you are right, but the ALPA scheduling team should be your first stop.
03-23-2019, 03:59 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
What is going on with the schedules in JFK for March and April? There seem to be a LOT of “coverage days” in PBS, but when the award comes out, the grid is green. How is this even legal to do? Wasn’t like this prior to March.
That being said, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot to have RSV guys covering every single weekend creates entire lines of 3 and 4 day RSV blocks. With the first day limitation of not before 10am they lose a large portion of day 1. So now they have less RSV guys to cover the 4 and 5 and even 3 day trips so they have to break apart the trips double the amount of pilots needed to cover a single trip.
If they would just let me bid my 5 and 6 day blocks of RSV, yea I’d get some weekend days off, but they have me to cover the longer trips.
03-24-2019, 05:59 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by EuroMexPilot
Trying to redirect this thread back to the topic, it has been very bad since March.
To sum it up, your RSV rules suck, your management is toxic, your pay is terrible, you have zero future, get out as soon as you can to a "real" airline!
Oh yeah, and your profit sharing is abysmal. Did I miss anything?
03-24-2019, 06:53 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by EuroMexPilot
Trying to redirect this thread back to the topic, it has been very bad since March. I think with more vacations and guys using PTO vs selling it back and the company slow to bring new hires on to cover that time off creates the need to add coverage over the weekends.
That being said, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot to have RSV guys covering every single weekend creates entire lines of 3 and 4 day RSV blocks. With the first day limitation of not before 10am they lose a large portion of day 1. So now they have less RSV guys to cover the 4 and 5 and even 3 day trips so they have to break apart the trips double the amount of pilots needed to cover a single trip.
If they would just let me bid my 5 and 6 day blocks of RSV, yea I’d get some weekend days off, but they have me to cover the longer trips.
That being said, I think they are shooting themselves in the foot to have RSV guys covering every single weekend creates entire lines of 3 and 4 day RSV blocks. With the first day limitation of not before 10am they lose a large portion of day 1. So now they have less RSV guys to cover the 4 and 5 and even 3 day trips so they have to break apart the trips double the amount of pilots needed to cover a single trip.
If they would just let me bid my 5 and 6 day blocks of RSV, yea I’d get some weekend days off, but they have me to cover the longer trips.
RSV has been pretty brutal as of late. I try to bid 3day blocks of RSV only and bid PM each day. That limits me from getting too many long 4-5day trips
03-24-2019, 07:15 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Additionally, when a 4-5day trip drops into open time no lineholder can pick it up, whereas previously that 4-5 day trip might have been a day trip, a 2day trip and a 3day trip. All more manageable for a lineholder to pick up and cover.
RSV has been pretty brutal as of late. I try to bid 3day blocks of RSV only and bid PM each day. That limits me from getting too many long 4-5day trips
RSV has been pretty brutal as of late. I try to bid 3day blocks of RSV only and bid PM each day. That limits me from getting too many long 4-5day trips
03-24-2019, 10:12 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
I have never gotten one of those 4 or 5 day RSV assignments. Longest has been 3 days, with the majority being 1-2.
03-24-2019, 11:44 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
That’s awesome, I guess I’ve just been lucky like that collecting sweet sweet per diem on those long trips!
I wonder how long this "coverage days" BS is going to last? Kind of defeats some of the other RSV perks that came with the CBA.
03-24-2019, 01:47 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Meh, some like them, some don't. For a commuter, they beat sitting around waiting for the phone to ring. For a home-based pilot, I would imagine they aren't as desirable.
I wonder how long this "coverage days" BS is going to last? Kind of defeats some of the other RSV perks that came with the CBA.
I wonder how long this "coverage days" BS is going to last? Kind of defeats some of the other RSV perks that came with the CBA.
Coverage days are here to stay (especially this summer). That said, if you are in the top 40% of line holders for your bid group, you cannot be assigned a coverage day.
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