Fume Events
#141
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Sully would be nice but all you need is a 30 minute documentary talking to various experts and showing historical data, including one of our very own that was critically hospitalized during an engine run. ALPA doesn't need to spend a penny to make it either. Most cell phones and go-pro equivalents now shoot in 4K and there's plenty of free video editing software. It's vital that ALPA create this highly technical video so that individual pilots are not attacked by the industry. Then, it needs to be given out to media outlets via ALPA press conferences, meetings with senators and representatives, and spread via social media and maybe even talks with youtube personalities like Joe Rogan.
This needs to happen.
Unfortunately, implementing the changes that are necessary to fix this problem costs money; therefore, it is basically ignored.
Our health is left at risk for the sake of profits; this is the case in many industries.
#142
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And it needs to be something that affects all the airlines equally. The FAA needs to be pressured into regulatory action along with congressmen and representatives. Airlines will simply fight this endlessly because if it's acknowledged, they will get sued by everyone. ALPA really needs to take legal action and perhaps sue the FAA for inaction.
#143
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As someone who is about to start flying 121, can anyone recommend a particular doctor or lab where I could get baseline tests done, just in case some years later I'm exposed to such an event.
I live in the NE.
Thx guys
I live in the NE.
Thx guys
#144
How often are one of your crew members hospitalized? If someone ends up on disability, does JB fight an OJI claim? I’m on the Airbus and luckily haven’t had a problem (DL) yet, but when I was on the 757, often when we shut an engine down taxiing in, I’d catch a whiff of unspent fuel. My allergies have gone haywire, compared to the days before I ever checked out in the 757/767. I just blamed all the mold, dust, and dead skin that must have accumulated in the environmental ducting for my allergies, but now I’m not so sure.
I’ve also noticed as I’ve gotten older, I’m much more tired when I get home from a trip. Absolutely exhausted after a 4 day trip, and it takes at least a full day to get motivated to get anything done at home, but after 2 days, I’m pretty much back to my normal self, no matter how easy or hard the 4 day trip was. This could very well be age. I’m 48 now and I know I’ve slowed down from when I was 30-35. But if there is something insidious that’s causing this, well, it’s scary to think about.
I’ve also noticed as I’ve gotten older, I’m much more tired when I get home from a trip. Absolutely exhausted after a 4 day trip, and it takes at least a full day to get motivated to get anything done at home, but after 2 days, I’m pretty much back to my normal self, no matter how easy or hard the 4 day trip was. This could very well be age. I’m 48 now and I know I’ve slowed down from when I was 30-35. But if there is something insidious that’s causing this, well, it’s scary to think about.
#145
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I think many pilots are affected by this just some more than others mainly depending on genetics and secondly luck of the draw on fume events and severity of them. Pilots are gambling with their health everyday.
I saw a study saying pilots had an overall lower rate of cancer than the general population but higher than normal rates of skin cancer (for obvious reasons) and lymphoma and leukemia. I wonder if organophosphate fumes could play a role. It would also be interesting to compare pilots rates of cancer to other professional groups instead of general population.
I think the medical community looks at organophosphate injuries as a 3rd world problem from pesticides that are either illegal or tightly controlled in our country.
ALPA needs to do more on this, are they afraid of scaring the general public out of flying?
I saw a study saying pilots had an overall lower rate of cancer than the general population but higher than normal rates of skin cancer (for obvious reasons) and lymphoma and leukemia. I wonder if organophosphate fumes could play a role. It would also be interesting to compare pilots rates of cancer to other professional groups instead of general population.
I think the medical community looks at organophosphate injuries as a 3rd world problem from pesticides that are either illegal or tightly controlled in our country.
ALPA needs to do more on this, are they afraid of scaring the general public out of flying?
#146
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How often are one of your crew members hospitalized? If someone ends up on disability, does JB fight an OJI claim? I’m on the Airbus and luckily haven’t had a problem (DL) yet, but when I was on the 757, often when we shut an engine down taxiing in, I’d catch a whiff of unspent fuel. My allergies have gone haywire, compared to the days before I ever checked out in the 757/767. I just blamed all the mold, dust, and dead skin that must have accumulated in the environmental ducting for my allergies, but now I’m not so sure.
I’ve also noticed as I’ve gotten older, I’m much more tired when I get home from a trip. Absolutely exhausted after a 4 day trip, and it takes at least a full day to get motivated to get anything done at home, but after 2 days, I’m pretty much back to my normal self, no matter how easy or hard the 4 day trip was. This could very well be age. I’m 48 now and I know I’ve slowed down from when I was 30-35. But if there is something insidious that’s causing this, well, it’s scary to think about.
I’ve also noticed as I’ve gotten older, I’m much more tired when I get home from a trip. Absolutely exhausted after a 4 day trip, and it takes at least a full day to get motivated to get anything done at home, but after 2 days, I’m pretty much back to my normal self, no matter how easy or hard the 4 day trip was. This could very well be age. I’m 48 now and I know I’ve slowed down from when I was 30-35. But if there is something insidious that’s causing this, well, it’s scary to think about.
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#148
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