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localizer 04-07-2019 05:11 PM

Fume Events
 
I have heard about the fume events on the A320s. Apparently a pilot lost his medical certificate ending his flying career and numerous people have been sent to the hospital. Doing a quick search of B6 incidents shows multiple fume events within the past year on the A320.

Is this a real problem or is it being blown out of proportion? Do they know what causes these bleed leaks and have they fixed the issue?

HighFlight 04-07-2019 06:09 PM

It’s not B6. It’s Airbus. I heard the first one to die from it was a Spirit pilot? Not sure though.

MySaabStory 04-07-2019 06:24 PM

I heard of an entire group of passengers falling ill and dying from the fumes. Also it may have been from the immunizations they received or from the toxic uniforms they had issued by the company.


OH PLEAZZZZZEEE

HighFlight 04-07-2019 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2798426)
I heard of an entire group of passengers falling ill and dying from the fumes. Also it may have been from the immunizations they received or from the toxic uniforms they had issued by the company.


OH PLEAZZZZZEEE

Is there a point to your non-contributing post? What is it you are trying to say?

MySaabStory 04-07-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2798429)
Is there a point to your non-contributing post? What is it you are trying to say?

That’s it’s complete BS

hilltopflyer 04-07-2019 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2798442)
That’s it’s complete BS

Might need to research a little more bud.

HighFlight 04-07-2019 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2798442)
That’s it’s complete BS

Tell that to the Spirit guy who died, and to the JB pilots who are unable to get a medical clearance to fly again after being exposed.

localizer 04-07-2019 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2798442)
That’s it’s complete BS

Are you ok man?

MySaabStory 04-07-2019 07:33 PM

Maybe it’s the fumes effecting me.

At the end of the day someone, somewhere will always be allergic or effected by something in our environment. Where do we draw the line?

BeatNavy 04-07-2019 08:36 PM

If you are an employee and on bluepilots you would be wise to read the 65 page thread on fumes. Several JB pilots are out now, one almost died and won’t ever fly again. TCP is a neurotoxin. It may smell like dirty socks/dirty packs, or with the new oil magic marker, but it’s nasty stuff. Some British airways pilots have died, a spirit pilot died, and who knows how many others have had neurotoxic issues undiagnosed to unlinked to a fume event. It causes neuro issues, cardiac issues, depression, and all sorts of weird stuff. Aerotoxic.org has some good info. There’s a reason the pilot union for 5 UK airlines just filed a lawsuit against each airline for not dealing with it.

Airbus engines (at least the IAEs, dunno about the CFMs), run at a much higher oil pressure than other engines, and is the assumed reason it has a higher rate of dirty sock smell. There were 59 fume events reported in March. Only one of those was an embraer. Only a few were 321s. The rest were 320s. If it was a work action or made up, you’d see events in the 190 and certainly the 321 in a statistically similar manner. But the 321s are all new and the seals not worn out like the older 320s.

It’s real. PAX aren’t exposed as much as flight crew, and it’s thought to be a cumulative exposure/absorption. And it doesn’t have a “fumey” odor. It’s pretty benign compared to other fumes/odors (electrical, chemical, fuel, exhaust, etc). Of the 59 events in March, only maybe a couple made the news. Most pax (and even ignorant pilots) don’t know anything/much about it. I hope saabstory isn’t a JB employee, or if he is, he educates himself.


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