nuball5

How is this much different from Jetblue converting 13 NEOs to LRs?

hilltopflyer

They were options and turned them into firm orders.

ClncClarence

“World’s largest airline and Airbus operator converts 30 existing 321NEO orders to 321XLR with 20 additional acquisitions.”

Oh my...how will JetBlue ever survive after this???

I swear dude, you manage to pull the most pathetically pessimistic conclusions from every single piece of information you come across. You’d made a great tabloid author.

PasserOGas

Hey, when the big 3 are less risk averse and grow at a higher rate than a "start up" like us it doesn't paint a pretty picture.

seekingblue

How did this place become like BP?

Lots of internet tough guys here.....

nuball5

It’s a replacement for their 757-200’s no? I don’t think it’s much growth or any at all, maybe someone has those numbers. Not a good day for Boeing.

cactusmike

Not a great day for AA pilots either, except for the airbus guys. The 321/320/319 pays at group 2 rates. The 757/767 is group 3, so that transatlantic thin route market will be flown at a discount. We are getting 787s to replace some of the 767 markets but the 757 was a large workhorse in a lot of markets.

We have the most dysfunctional union that could possibly exist. The chances of breaking out the 321 into the upper pay tier are pretty much zero. History has shown that the APA will trade something good for something worse.

The XLR will be a really good jet for your operation. You guys have shown you can compete in the markets with the bigger carriers. There is always room for a niche product. The biggest issue with international is not just the Deltas and Uniteds and Americans in the market, it’s all the foreign carriers that you are competing with going into their home markets. There is a lot of competition out of JFK. But since south Florida is a big destination for Europeans I could see JetBlue doing something from FLL or MCO.

capt707

Except JB hasn’t made an announcement to get the XLR. It’ll probably take them 2 yrs. again to make a decision. Doesn’t matter, I highly doubt we will ever go to Europe anyway.

BunkerF16

Not in blue shirts anyways.

Trowserchilli

https://onemileatatime.com/frontier-a321xlr/

Frontier is the first US Carrier to order the A321XLR.

The airframes will go to Frontier, Whizz and Jet Smart.

Frankes just connecting the dots of his global ULCC.