CBA is a TURD
07-17-2019, 07:54 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
If the NC said this is the best we could get and it up to the pilot group now.
That would have been honest.
Instead we got a presentation of exaggerations meant to do only one thing. Pass a product.
Zero respect for that. That is why they were fired by the LECs.
That would have been honest.
Instead we got a presentation of exaggerations meant to do only one thing. Pass a product.
Zero respect for that. That is why they were fired by the LECs.
Well we know you won’t be volunteering for it right, you fought for this group once before and won’t waste your time again. Which is probably why the NC guys were done and not “fired”
07-17-2019, 09:01 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
The 26ers answer to the NC was “why don’t you guys just stomp out of the room anytime they present a sub-standard offer?”
I feel bad for the NC guys who had to listen to our “real experts.”
I feel bad for the NC guys who had to listen to our “real experts.”
07-17-2019, 09:45 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by likeitis
Not really. I’m a 26er and I’ve said all along that we would get crap and continue to until this pilot group figures out how act in a negotiation. The NC gets all of its power from the group and this group has too many who need to be hand held and/or are afraid of their shadow.
07-17-2019, 11:45 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
If the NC said this is the best we could get and it up to the pilot group now.
That would have been honest.
Instead we got a presentation of exaggerations meant to do only one thing. Pass a product.
Zero respect for that. That is why they were fired by the LECs.
That would have been honest.
Instead we got a presentation of exaggerations meant to do only one thing. Pass a product.
Zero respect for that. That is why they were fired by the LECs.
Did you actually talk to one of the NC members? I take it you did not.
07-17-2019, 01:00 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
The NC was fired? Isn’t it pretty much ALPA SOP to change up members? I don’t think the committee was dismissed mid negotiations like other carriers have done.
Well we know you won’t be volunteering for it right, you fought for this group once before and won’t waste your time again. Which is probably why the NC guys were done and not “fired”
Well we know you won’t be volunteering for it right, you fought for this group once before and won’t waste your time again. Which is probably why the NC guys were done and not “fired”
Believe what you want.
I don't care.
07-17-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Hook, line and false narrative.
Believe what you want.
I don't care.
Believe what you want.
I don't care.
That’s not my understanding at all but if you have different information I’m interested.
07-17-2019, 02:08 PM
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You believe the MEC doesn’t spin?
I watched the entire show. Not just the parts I liked.
I believe they did get best they could. But that is not what was sold to us. That was the point.
Which message gets a TA passed?
As far as my proof, I have none, I'm just putting the sequence of events together and the explanations do not add up to the public narrative. Plus the best part is watching everyone get spun up!
I watched the entire show. Not just the parts I liked.
I believe they did get best they could. But that is not what was sold to us. That was the point.
Which message gets a TA passed?
As far as my proof, I have none, I'm just putting the sequence of events together and the explanations do not add up to the public narrative. Plus the best part is watching everyone get spun up!
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07-17-2019, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
You believe the MEC doesn’t spin?
I watched the entire show. Not just the parts I liked.
I believe they did get best they could. But that is not what was sold to us. That was the point.
Which message gets a TA passed?
As far as my proof, I have none, I'm just putting the sequence of events together and the explanations do not add up to the public narrative. Plus the best part is watching everyone get spun up!
I watched the entire show. Not just the parts I liked.
I believe they did get best they could. But that is not what was sold to us. That was the point.
Which message gets a TA passed?
As far as my proof, I have none, I'm just putting the sequence of events together and the explanations do not add up to the public narrative. Plus the best part is watching everyone get spun up!
07-17-2019, 05:48 PM
#50
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
So you have no facts, just pot-stirring on an internet forum. Got it. At least you're honest about it!
Ask around and the story is exactly the same. To me, that is impossible unless its a talking point.
Why the taking point! Why not the truth!
Oh!
That would look bad. As if the company gives a snit!
It has more to do, IMO, about the MEC continuing to cover it nass, since they told us, which is unusual, to vote "for" the TA.
But then ... they get to stay!
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