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Bluetruth 08-25-2019 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 2875231)
exacerbated by Crew Plannings pairing optimizer blunder. ]
-Bubs

Could you elaborate on this?

SaintNick 08-25-2019 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bluetruth (Post 2876201)
Could you elaborate on this?

After the contract they made the trips so much worse. Not sure why but they thought it would be a good idea. Came back and bit them

AYLflyer 08-26-2019 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2875788)
Our mint flight to San Diego left with no menus, they were just like have inflight use their I pads. And the one going home was late because they “forgot” to cater the entire plane. Catering issues again. Maybe we should double down :)

This is the stuff that ****es me the hell off. I was sitting in the jet the other day getting it ready and overheard on ops freq that a mint flight a few gates over didn't have desert and something else for the meals. Ops came back with "You're good to go without it, we're going to give out vouchers".

You cannot pull that kind of BS on passengers that paid for a 1st class experience. It's completely unacceptable and if I were a paying passenger and upgraded to business/first and all I got was a lousy voucher instead of the food I was expecting, I'd take my business elsewhere.

P-3Bubba 08-26-2019 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 2876608)
This is the stuff that ****es me the hell off. I was sitting in the jet the other day getting it ready and overheard on ops freq that a mint flight a few gates over didn't have desert and something else for the meals. Ops came back with "You're good to go without it, we're going to give out vouchers".

You cannot pull that kind of BS on passengers that paid for a 1st class experience. It's completely unacceptable and if I were a paying passenger and upgraded to business/first and all I got was a lousy voucher instead of the food I was expecting, I'd take my business elsewhere.

That’s the corporate hubris that prevails. Culture is what they preach. De-escalate and make happy apologies. Play your holiday flute songs.

Had a bunch of customers from HPN tell/blame me for their atrocious previous flight, where Jetblue diverted them to JFK rather than deliver them (as the scheduled 121 operation and ticket said they’d be brought) to HPN. That flight has a 1 hour buffer from scheduled land time to field closure. We don’t run on-time. We don’t run 1 hour late. We run 16 hours late.

This is where we’re making Planning decisions that the fleet and staffing can’t accommodate. That’s an Operational and COO issue. Go down the list of Jetblue COO’s and “Where are they now?”. It’s not a rosy picture.

Had a 320CA tell me yesterday they keep changing hotels on overnights. To whatever they decide. That’s cool. Whatever. Why do I know a 190CA who has 2 fatigue outs for 24 hour days with no hotel? Why am I in a cab from BUF-SYR? Why am I in a 45 min van ride to the hotel in HPN? We suck.

-Bubs

pilotpayne 08-27-2019 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by P-3Bubba (Post 2877205)
That’s the corporate hubris that prevails. Culture is what they preach. De-escalate and make happy apologies. Play your holiday flute songs.

Had a bunch of customers from HPN tell/blame me for their atrocious previous flight, where Jetblue diverted them to JFK rather than deliver them (as the scheduled 121 operation and ticket said they’d be brought) to HPN. That flight has a 1 hour buffer from scheduled land time to field closure. We don’t run on-time. We don’t run 1 hour late. We run 16 hours late.

This is where we’re making Planning decisions that the fleet and staffing can’t accommodate. That’s an Operational and COO issue. Go down the list of Jetblue COO’s and “Where are they now?”. It’s not a rosy picture.

Had a 320CA tell me yesterday they keep changing hotels on overnights. To whatever they decide. That’s cool. Whatever. Why do I know a 190CA who has 2 fatigue outs for 24 hour days with no hotel? Why am I in a cab from BUF-SYR? Why am I in a 45 min van ride to the hotel in HPN? We suck.

-Bubs

Keep changing hotels?


About the COO list the only problem is the current one WILL be CEO.

But they keep making money and just won the JD power award again. Employees keep working and passengers keep flying. Yeah we suck have you seen the recent Delta videos. It’s all the same stupid crap, so they really have no reason to change, unfortunately. Also from what I understand those mint people get a 1000 dollar voucher sooooo.

But I totally agree with you I just don’t see anything currently that will make them change. Heck we keep getting hotel downgrades and not even an email about why from the union or if they agree with the change.

Unfortunately until something changes it is what it is.

P-3Bubba 08-27-2019 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by pilotpayne (Post 2877336)
Keep changing hotels?


About the COO list the only problem is the current one WILL be CEO.

But they keep making money and just won the JD power award again. Employees keep working and passengers keep flying. Yeah we suck have you seen the recent Delta videos. It’s all the same stupid crap, so they really have no reason to change, unfortunately. Also from what I understand those mint people get a 1000 dollar voucher sooooo.

But I totally agree with you I just don’t see anything currently that will make them change. Heck we keep getting hotel downgrades and not even an email about why from the union or if they agree with the change.

Unfortunately until something changes it is what it is.

You’re correct too. There’s no reason to change. I think they’ll make close to a $BILLION net profits in 2019. That’s proof positive that corporate management and guidance is 100% correct. There will be bonuses and champagne toasts for all.

Speaking of champagne toasts.....I recall Christmas 2018 when there was a light rain and fog event in the Northeast. There I was watching the phone ring off the hook with “JETBLUE AIRWAYS” in the caller ID. “Please Help? Please Help? PLEASE HELP!” played through my voicemails. No thanks. I’ll keep my champagne toasts for me. Merry Christmas travelers.

-Bubs


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