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Originally Posted by N311JB
(Post 3003398)
Any math wizards know with the available cash on hand plus the credit how long B6 can operate. Assuming no furloughs, etc
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3003404)
Depends on some assumptions, but if you assume after countermeasures and after the airline works through its negative bookings, it could burn through $10 million a day for about 200 days.
Assuming where we're at now. Reduced leave lines. Off hand with 1 billion in cash and 1 billion in credit the 200 sounds about right. Hopefully the get a piece of the bailout I mean relief money without any earmarks |
Originally Posted by N311JB
(Post 3003531)
Assuming where we're at now. Reduced leave lines. Off hand with 1 billion in cash and 1 billion in credit the 200 sounds about right. Hopefully the get a piece of the bailout I mean relief money without any earmarks
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3003404)
Depends on some assumptions, but if you assume after countermeasures and after the airline works through its negative bookings, it could burn through $10 million a day for about 200 days.
https://leehamnews.com/2020/03/16/us...-SonUrOmgB3Pq4 |
Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
(Post 3003583)
This article is a good read. It has a good chart with all the carriers except F9. It says B6 has 94 days of cash and credit, 105 with assets included.
https://leehamnews.com/2020/03/16/us...-SonUrOmgB3Pq4 |
Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
(Post 3003583)
This article is a good read. It has a good chart with all the carriers except F9. It says B6 has 94 days of cash and credit, 105 with assets included.
https://leehamnews.com/2020/03/16/us...-SonUrOmgB3Pq4 As mentioned, it doesn't include the newly acquired $1 billion in liquid cash. But possibly most striking, is that it values JB's 1/3 of its fleet which is unencumbered, as well as JB's extraordinarily valuable slot portfolio, at only $200 million. That's off by magnitudes. |
Originally Posted by HogEars
(Post 3003554)
ALPA has a call to action letter available. Just a checkbox and then the form letter is sent to your two senators & congressman. Takes 10 seconds. Worth my time.
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Originally Posted by N311JB
(Post 3003751)
Done 2 days ago and frwd to everyone I know
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This a great perspective if mgmt starts to rumble about cutting costs
https://apple.news/ArrQGms8LQh-bKT4cV0li_w |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3003687)
It's actually quite inaccurate. Dramatically so.
As mentioned, it doesn't include the newly acquired $1 billion in liquid cash. But possibly most striking, is that it values JB's 1/3 of its fleet which is unencumbered, as well as JB's extraordinarily valuable slot portfolio, at only $200 million. That's off by magnitudes. Off by magnitudes is an understatement. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3004353)
I also forgot, this analysis was also done before JB announced 40% capacity cuts from April into the summer.
Off by magnitudes is an understatement. |
Originally Posted by SaintNick
(Post 3004354)
off by good or bad?
The article understated JBs abilities, by a lot. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3004369)
JB right now probably has 200-250 days of operating cash with some reasonable assumptions.
The article understated JBs abilities, by a lot. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3003687)
It's actually quite inaccurate. Dramatically so.
As mentioned, it doesn't include the newly acquired $1 billion in liquid cash. But possibly most striking, is that it values JB's 1/3 of its fleet which is unencumbered, as well as JB's extraordinarily valuable slot portfolio, at only $200 million. That's off by magnitudes. |
Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 3004591)
not validating any of that article but the argument can be made that at THIS moment slots and used aircraft are not at peak values if needed to be liquidated.
I believe the author made a gross error, somehow. |
full pay to the last day...less block hours for serious gains in cba language
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Originally Posted by Papa Bear
(Post 3006658)
full pay to the last day...less block hours for serious gains in cba language
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Originally Posted by Combatcraig
(Post 3006766)
I like where your head I s at. I’m in. Will the FLICA *****s be? Will ALPA ask. Will the senior guys vote to keep the rookies on board? Crazy times...
This is not coming back soon. Cuomo and Gruesome will keep Cali and NYC closed for 6 weeks minimum. #Coronascam |
Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 3006939)
Cannot allow pay concessions. If they have to furlough, so be it, but furloughs are far down the FOG list because of cost. Plus, when things ramp up in January, theyll need every swingin D.
This is not coming back soon. Cuomo and Gruesome will keep Cali and NYC closed for 6 weeks minimum. #Coronascam If we take pay cuts ...THE COMPANY WILL FURLOUGH ANYWAYS!!! They get less pilots at a cheaper rate. They are always playing the long game. |
Originally Posted by Papa Bear
(Post 3007252)
Yep...i think you are right...We dont give an inch on those pay concessions. At this point ( I saw someone mention USAIR2.0) if we give in we are stuck with it for years and years to come. Gotta keep thinking long game!
If we take pay cuts ...THE COMPANY WILL FURLOUGH ANYWAYS!!! They get less pilots at a cheaper rate. They are always playing the long game. |
Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 3006939)
Cannot allow pay concessions. If they have to furlough, so be it, but furloughs are far down the FOG list because of cost. Plus, when things ramp up in January, theyll need every swingin D.
This is not coming back soon. Cuomo and Gruesome will keep Cali and NYC closed for 6 weeks minimum. #Coronascam |
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Just to reiterate..... Not... one... dime....
We negotiated a contract that gave the company the ability to handle emergencies. |
Originally Posted by aldonite7667
(Post 3018057)
Just to reiterate..... Not... one... dime....
We negotiated a contract that gave the company the ability to handle emergencies. |
Man, you guys are hard core. Talking to some friends that are still at JB, I think you should consider giving up a lot to save the company.
At a minimum, you should consider giving up Level 1 Lift Awards, Blue SuperHero recognition and excessive emails. If the company is really in trouble, I might suggest, as hard as this may be for you all, but it might be time to give back the potato farm. Have to save the company. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3018113)
Man, you guys are hard core. Talking to some friends that are still at JB, I think you should consider giving up a lot to save the company.
At a minimum, you should consider giving up Level 1 Lift Awards, Blue SuperHero recognition and excessive emails. If the company is really in trouble, I might suggest, as hard as this may be for you all, but it might be time to give back the potato farm. Have to save the company. |
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
(Post 3018113)
Man, you guys are hard core. Talking to some friends that are still at JB, I think you should consider giving up a lot to save the company.
At a minimum, you should consider giving up Level 1 Lift Awards, Blue SuperHero recognition and excessive emails. If the company is really in trouble, I might suggest, as hard as this may be for you all, but it might be time to give back the potato farm. Have to save the company. https://cdn1-thr-com.cdn.ampproject....907-h_2019.jpg |
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
(Post 3018152)
I’ll give up my Lift Awards when you pry them from my cold dead hands!!!
https://cdn1-thr-com.cdn.ampproject....907-h_2019.jpg |
Originally Posted by Boomer
(Post 3018128)
If we have to give up the potato farm, maybe this job isn’t worth saving.
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Originally Posted by Phil Laschio
(Post 3022353)
We gotta think outside the box. Boiled potatoes. Fried potatoes. Potatoes cocktail. Steamed potatoes. Hash browns. Au gratin. French fries. Tater tots. Kettle chips. Our new venture- Robin Gump potato farm.
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