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Old 03-30-2020, 01:05 PM   #11  
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You can see the number of flights starting April 1st dropping significantly from the mid 800ís to low 300ís/day.

Company also said they were reducing their NYC flights from 200+ flights a day, to just 40.

As it was mentioned on the other thread, they already canceled a good portion of our flights for April, in CrewTrac. My awarded scheduled was cut down 95%. I literally have just a handful of legs to fly, as of now.

Company initially said they were cutting 5%, then 40% and after that, I donít believe they send out an official number. But if we are only flying 300ish flights a day, thatís roughly a 70% reduction, which is in line with most of our peers.


how many furloughs you see in the future
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how many furloughs you see in the future
No way to even make a smart guess at this point.
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No way to even make a smart guess at this point.

I agree... too early to tell if we are going to have furloughs or not. Thatís going to depend on the demand, once the market settles down and all of this is behind us.

Personally, I believe the economy wonít go back to what it was, even by yearís end. The damage is already done. The stimulus bill certainly helps but they had to do something to avoid the bankruptcy of the entire country.
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Thereís still people out there that think Jetblue might not furlough or any airline for that matter? I think that ship has sailed.
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Thereís still people out there that think Jetblue might not furlough or any airline for that matter? I think that ship has sailed.
Per the CBA, JetBlue needs to give 60 days notice before furlough, and then offer voluntary furloughs before assigning involuntary furloughs. Furloughed pilots will be paid 75 hours per month for up to 6 months. Then you have the cost of retraining (downgrades and equipment) realigning bases with the remaining pilots, displacement/relocation costs, and so on. You also have to consider the training costs when the furlough ends and everyone shuffles back to their old seat and equipment.

Jetblue must realize that, from the time they pull the trigger, it will be at least 9 or 10 months, maybe closer to a year, before they save any money with a furlough.

Better to offer 50-hour incentive lines each month. Save money now, instead of a year from now, and have the flexibility to change staffing (each seat, plane, and base) every month as the situation develops.
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Per the CBA, JetBlue needs to give 60 days notice before furlough, and then offer voluntary furloughs before assigning involuntary furloughs. Furloughed pilots will be paid 75 hours per month for up to 6 months. Then you have the cost of retraining (downgrades and equipment) realigning bases with the remaining pilots, displacement/relocation costs, and so on. You also have to consider the training costs when the furlough ends and everyone shuffles back to their old seat and equipment.

Jetblue must realize that, from the time they pull the trigger, it will be at least 9 or 10 months, maybe closer to a year, before they save any money with a furlough.

Better to offer 50-hour incentive lines each month. Save money now, instead of a year from now, and have the flexibility to change staffing (each seat, plane, and base) every month as the situation develops.
Not unless Jetblue liquidates and shuts it down.
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Not unless Jetblue liquidates and shuts it down.
His question was about furloughs, but if weíre talking about liquidation, then Iíll take a guess and say ďeveryoneĒ.
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Per the CBA, JetBlue needs to give 60 days notice before furlough, and then offer voluntary furloughs before assigning involuntary furloughs. Furloughed pilots will be paid 75 hours per month for up to 6 months.
Such an optimist.

I'm going to guess the company will push for " circumstances beyond the control of the Company" ( natural disaster? vs. state of the economy)

and that will get furloughed pilots 2 months of pay ( less than 2 years on property...1 month of pay)
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Such an optimist.

I'm going to guess the company will push for " circumstances beyond the control of the Company" ( natural disaster? vs. state of the economy)

and that will get furloughed pilots 2 months of pay ( less than 2 years on property...1 month of pay)
Notifications August 1st (60 days notice) for October 1st effective date. Meets the CBA and the bailout requirements. Just a guess though...still largely dependent on what happens in the next 4 months.
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Not unless Jetblue liquidates and shuts it down.

well thatís xtreme and redundant
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