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#61
New Hire
Joined: Jan 2021
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Thank you to all of you for digging deep and doing the hard work to discern the facts and sharing!!
It’s not personal, just business.
Remember peer set group, medical, PS. Their job is to reduce CASM. Even though I would enjoy a 24 EIL that they “could” offer, I’m a, No.
#62
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
#64
I've been reading through this thread as an outsider so I don't know the true specifics, but from what it sounds like here I'm surprised your MEC even brought this to a vote. Why on Earth would you guys give up any hint of scope protections for a one shot 2% raise? What other guarantees are you getting out of this? Am I missing something?
#65
I've been reading through this thread as an outsider so I don't know the true specifics, but from what it sounds like here I'm surprised your MEC even brought this to a vote. Why on Earth would you guys give up any hint of scope protections for a one shot 2% raise? What other guarantees are you getting out of this? Am I missing something?
Never let a tragedy go to waste.
#66
They're banking on fear. Don't let them.
#68
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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While I wouldn’t put it past APA to attempt a staple, can’t happen, and won’t happen, so let’s dispense of the threatening fear language...now massive fences on wide bodies, that’s a real player. But again, likely not happening and even if it did, not til they get their financial house in order, which will take many years of potential restructuring.
Regardless, how about we all just survive this pandemic, start flying again and wish the best of organic growth and prosperity to all
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#69
Layover Master
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,376
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From: Seated
Not saying it couldn’t happen; but AA is going to be in survival mode to service its debt for a very long time after this, much of that debt has Gov’t strings attached. (Just like all Airlines), some just have more debt than others. AA won’t be in the driver’s seat of any deal with JetBlue or any other Airline for that matter.
While I wouldn’t put it past APA to attempt a staple, can’t happen, and won’t happen, so let’s dispense of the threatening fear language...now massive fences on wide bodies, that’s a real player. But again, likely not happening and even if it did, not til they get their financial house in order, which will take many years of potential restructuring.
Regardless, how about we all just survive this pandemic, start flying again and wish the best of organic growth and prosperity to all
!
While I wouldn’t put it past APA to attempt a staple, can’t happen, and won’t happen, so let’s dispense of the threatening fear language...now massive fences on wide bodies, that’s a real player. But again, likely not happening and even if it did, not til they get their financial house in order, which will take many years of potential restructuring.
Regardless, how about we all just survive this pandemic, start flying again and wish the best of organic growth and prosperity to all
!
#70
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
AA might well go through chap 11 restructuring in the coming 1-3 years.
They could exit with a dump truck full of cash and want the northeast back, or JB could provide the BK court with an acquisition plan that makes more AA (but not all) debt holders whole than completing chapter 11 as a stand alone.
Or other possibilities.


