Manuals other than CBA binding?
04-28-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
The FAA could have denied wearing a suiting jacket in March?
Please!
Please!
Check your cba. We dates but also have language that allows not wearing jackets when, paraphrasing, environment conditions warrant not wearing one.
04-28-2022, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Check your cba. We dates but also have language that allows not wearing jackets when, paraphrasing, environment conditions warrant not wearing one.
04-28-2022, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid Seagull
For those of us that still live downstream of a coal plant, do you have a CBA reference number?
That’s f9 contract language. If you have it it’s with uniform language. Sec 18 in our agreement. I’ll guess it’s the same sec in b6 as well. Both alpa contracts. It’s carry over language from when we had labor friendly management so I don’t think it’s standard alpa language.
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04-28-2022, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
That’s f9 contract language. If you have it it’s with uniform language. Sec 18 in our agreement. I’ll guess it’s the same sec in b6 as well. Both alpa contracts. It’s carry over language from when we had labor friendly management so I don’t think it’s standard alpa language.
04-28-2022, 04:53 PM
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JetBlue’s ALPA CBA addresses uniforms in section 5.G. It spells out free uniforms for new hires and any time the company changes the uniform. It also stipulates our $200 uniform allowance. Anything not specified in 5.G is fair game for the company to do at their whim.
04-28-2022, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
JetBlue’s ALPA CBA addresses uniforms in section 5.G. It spells out free uniforms for new hires and any time the company changes the uniform. It also stipulates our $200 uniform allowance. Anything not specified in 5.G is fair game for the company to do at their whim.
04-28-2022, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
No, they approved that when they approved your FOM initially. Or later when it was part of a revision. What exactly are you concerned about the company being able to add and get past an approval? uniforms? The original implication was the company could just add anything.
04-28-2022, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhayes
Only certain portions of the FOM is approved, outside of that, a company can add anything.
Your probably correct but I will say initially the entire manual has to be faa approved. Could a company slip in something out of the ordinary? Sure but generally speaking it’s cut and paste because a majority of the language has already been faa approved. Why would a company roll the dice and delay approval for something non standard? Revisions can’t conflict with cba’s.
05-04-2022, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker
Your probably correct but I will say initially the entire manual has to be faa approved. Could a company slip in something out of the ordinary? Sure but generally speaking it’s cut and paste because a majority of the language has already been faa approved. Why would a company roll the dice and delay approval for something non standard? Revisions can’t conflict with cba’s.
05-04-2022, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PILOTGUY
For sure they can. If anything is outside what the FAA controls ( uniforms ), then the company will add and write in what they want. A new Airline pops up and the company wants clown wigs on everyone, the FAA’s thoughts on that would be irrelevant. Snacks, drink brands, whacking material, etc.,
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