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Old 05-29-2022, 05:48 AM
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First off, there are no values. This is a business and a poorly run one at that. Each carrier is facing difficulties and Jetblue is no different. As a pilot applying here or currently employed you must ask yourself if you see improvement occurring. You can look at a legacy carrier and see the operational and structural changes. Can you see that at Jetblue? This is where your decisions should lie. An underperforming management is typically met with dismissal yet at Jetblue this cycle isn’t broken. The structure at a typical carrier is such that changes are possible and mandated when underperformance is noted. JetBlues structure is such that change cannot occur because doing so causes significant disruption to the overlapping management structure. On a macro level each management personnel’s responsibility includes multiple cross departmental groups. As such change becomes increasingly difficult as the assumption of one’s experience in multiple areas is difficult to replace. The reality is the awards lavished on this carrier stem from free Televisions and internet mixed with free and unlimited snacks. It’s a mirage of operational performance and nothing short. As an employee this reality is disheartening and concerning. We wont see change because we can’t. When the Flight operations budget is largely controlled by the group who controls the scheduling of pilots yet Flight Ops can’t dictate to scheduling how to schedule or hire said pilots the result is a revolving door of dysfunction and costly mistakes. This is the Jetblue reality and one that shouldn’t be glossed over when deciding a major airline pilots career.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:58 AM
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“We continue to experience elevated levels of pilot attrition and training pressures,” Geraghty said, adding that while the airline might be able to catch up on the training backlog, “we have to plan for a world where we just have elevated pilot attrition” owing to macro-economic forces that encourage pilots to seek opportunities elsewhere.

Unbelievable.
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Old 06-02-2022, 11:05 AM
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“We continue to experience elevated levels of pilot attrition and training pressures,” Geraghty said, adding that while the airline might be able to catch up on the training backlog, “we have to plan for a world where we just have elevated pilot attrition” owing to macro-economic forces that encourage pilots to seek opportunities elsewhere.

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Where did you find that?
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Old 06-02-2022, 01:02 PM
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https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-t...-call-transcr/

search for the Catherine OBrien question
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https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-t...-call-transcr/

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From April? I remember that. I thought he was referring to something new.
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Old 06-02-2022, 01:42 PM
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From April? I remember that. I thought he was referring to something new.
Yeah, the earnings call transcript.
I just read it and was rather flabbergasted, but not really.
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Old 06-03-2022, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
Yeah, the earnings call transcript.
I just read it and was rather flabbergasted, but not really.
Listening to that earnings call was brutal.
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Old 06-03-2022, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
“We continue to experience elevated levels of pilot attrition and training pressures,” Geraghty said, adding that while the airline might be able to catch up on the training backlog, “we have to plan for a world where we just have elevated pilot attrition” owing to macro-economic forces that encourage pilots to seek opportunities elsewhere.

Unbelievable.
For anyone seeking employment at Jetblue this quote encapsulates managements philosophy of running an airline. Essentially, we know there’s a problem but we can’t or wont attempt to solve it. From the operational meltdowns to current attrition its easier to ignore than to address.
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Old 06-03-2022, 01:18 PM
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First off, there are no values. This is a business and a poorly run one at that. Each carrier is facing difficulties and Jetblue is no different. As a pilot applying here or currently employed you must ask yourself if you see improvement occurring. You can look at a legacy carrier and see the operational and structural changes. Can you see that at Jetblue? This is where your decisions should lie. An underperforming management is typically met with dismissal yet at Jetblue this cycle isn’t broken. The structure at a typical carrier is such that changes are possible and mandated when underperformance is noted. JetBlues structure is such that change cannot occur because doing so causes significant disruption to the overlapping management structure. On a macro level each management personnel’s responsibility includes multiple cross departmental groups. As such change becomes increasingly difficult as the assumption of one’s experience in multiple areas is difficult to replace. The reality is the awards lavished on this carrier stem from free Televisions and internet mixed with free and unlimited snacks. It’s a mirage of operational performance and nothing short. As an employee this reality is disheartening and concerning. We wont see change because we can’t. When the Flight operations budget is largely controlled by the group who controls the scheduling of pilots yet Flight Ops can’t dictate to scheduling how to schedule or hire said pilots the result is a revolving door of dysfunction and costly mistakes. This is the Jetblue reality and one that shouldn’t be glossed over when deciding a major airline pilots career.
But Hayes said he wanted to "Inspire Humanity", surely you're mistaken.....lulz
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Old 06-03-2022, 03:01 PM
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What's jetBlue's attrition so far year to date?
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