We have a pilot attrition problem
04-29-2022, 03:52 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Alterbridge
This is (mostly) correct and also sad that it has to be pointed out.
But, it's not a halfa$$ check. It's "free" money, as the guy above explained.
But, it's not a halfa$$ check. It's "free" money, as the guy above explained.
04-30-2022, 06:47 AM
#52
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
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Originally Posted by Alterbridge
This is (mostly) correct and also sad that it has to be pointed out.
But, it's not a halfa$$ check. It's "free" money, as the guy above explained.
But, it's not a halfa$$ check. It's "free" money, as the guy above explained.
04-30-2022, 07:04 AM
#53
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 106
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
What is "free" money? If it costs you seniority at your final company, for decades, and all that that means, is it "free"?
Toady is commute day, so there is a little bit of chap going on, I guess.
04-30-2022, 09:18 AM
#54
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Posts: 726
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Anyone who gives up a class date (Seniority) for a 1 time halfa$$ check is crazy. 1 class can be the difference between upgrade, or not, furlough, or not, someday. 1 PILOT ahead of you can be the difference between holding the cherry trip you want on the monthly bid, or not.
Especially for a guy who only been here a couple years. That little pittance of money isn't worth waiting for and giving up a class date.
Especially for a guy who only been here a couple years. That little pittance of money isn't worth waiting for and giving up a class date.
04-30-2022, 09:39 AM
#55
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Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,310
Originally Posted by Flyhayes
I'm just waiting for my 401k to be fully vested before applying elsewhere at this point. I don't relish the idea of starting over, when I thought this to be my "forever airline", but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot with all the movement going on at the Legacies.
Three years on 4/10/2022, CJO at a legacy on 4/28/2022.
Dont look forward to starting over, but do look forward to working for a real airline with actual movement.
04-30-2022, 09:50 AM
#56
Clear ECAM
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 886
I left after 2.5 years and gave up my 401(k) vesting. I’ll make up the difference on year 2 cargo pay and be a 757 CA with less than 2 years at the new place.
Honestly the 401(k) vesting is peanuts compared to the value of hundreds of seniority numbers.
Honestly the 401(k) vesting is peanuts compared to the value of hundreds of seniority numbers.
04-30-2022, 12:30 PM
#57
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Anyone who gives up a class date (Seniority) for a 1 time halfa$$ check is crazy. 1 class can be the difference between upgrade, or not, furlough, or not, someday. 1 PILOT ahead of you can be the difference between holding the cherry trip you want on the monthly bid, or not.
Especially for a guy who only been here a couple years. That little pittance of money isn't worth waiting for and giving up a class date.
Especially for a guy who only been here a couple years. That little pittance of money isn't worth waiting for and giving up a class date.
Of course learning that the check was guaranteed, if the new hires know this, changes things. Get out now. However, I also wouldn’t trust the company or ALPA to not play games and not pay out. Just my .02 which won’t even get you a piece of gum these days.
04-30-2022, 12:59 PM
#59
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
Originally Posted by RegionalRetread
5-6 yrs from now will be a different story after the retirements peak.
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