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Old 05-01-2022, 04:10 PM
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I was literally employed at my regional for an extra year because someone else deferred a class date and I went to his slot on short notice.

After the first round of furloughs I was 10 numbers from the bottom of the list for an entire year instead of being unemployed had I taken The later class.


I again took a short notice class date at JB and as a consequence got into my desired base and seat a full year earlier, as the plug, before the next guy came in.

Go ahead and put off that class date for 2k though.


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Old 05-01-2022, 04:14 PM
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And there it is... Sometimes it's just better to let a post stand in its own glory.
It is glorious. Thank you.

How many pilots submitted their resignation letter to “get the first class at their career airline” in early September 2001? How many pilots were screwed in March of 2020. The fabricated wu flu shutdown would have been much better for 39 pilots at JB, and many others elsewhere, had they delayed their class 2-3 weeks.

Despite what you might think, you don’t have it all figured out. Yes, you have a very myopic view. Yes, you’re to arrogant to look in the mirror and realize you made 1000 horrible decisions that led to your situation but you’re too weak to own it. It’s easier for your fragile ego to blame everything around you.

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Old 05-01-2022, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
I was literally employed at my regional for an extra year because someone else deferred a class date and I went to his slot on short notice.

After the first round of furloughs I was 10 numbers from the bottom of the list for an entire year instead of being unemployed had I taken The later class.


I again took a short notice class date at JB and as a consequence got into my desired base and seat a full year earlier, as the plug, before the next guy came in.

Go ahead and put off that class date for 2k though.


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I’ll take your 1 off and raise you 39 - hundreds more against. Thinking that taking the first class is the end all, be all and will protect you from all things this industry will crap on you over, is very myopic. Just as many people who have been saved by jumping ASAP have been hurt, if not more, by jumping ASAP. No one knows until they’re sitting in the old folks home waiting on their tapioca pudding. Anyone that says otherwise is a snake oil salesman.
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Old 05-01-2022, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RegionalRetread View Post
It is glorious. Thank you.

How many pilots submitted their resignation letter to “get the first class at their career airline” in early September 2001? How many pilots were screwed in March of 2020. The fabricated wu flu shutdown would have been much better for 39 pilots at JB, and many others elsewhere, had they delayed their class 2 weeks.

Despite what you might think, you don’t have it all figured out. Yes, you have a very myopic view. Yes, you’re to arrogant to look in the mirror and realize you made 1000 horrible decisions that led to your situation but you’re too weak to own it. It’s easier for your fragile ego to blame everything around you.
By that logic, you should never take your final career job. Just keep delaying indefinitely, just in case...

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Old 05-01-2022, 04:28 PM
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By that logic, you should never take your final career job. Just keep delaying indefinitely, just in case...

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I’m not surprised that’s your conclusion. 🤣🤣🤣
Go back to your LARPing crew keyboard commando.

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Originally Posted by RegionalRetread View Post
I’ll take your 1 off and raise you 39 - hundreds more against. Thinking that taking the first class is the end all, be all and will protect you from all things this industry will crap on you over, is very myopic. Just as many people who have been saved by jumping ASAP have been hurt, if not more, by jumping ASAP. No one knows until they’re sitting in the old folks home waiting on their tapioca pudding. Anyone that says otherwise is a snake oil salesman.
Whether or not you should change airlines is one question, but once the decision to switch has been made, delaying that switch makes zero mathematical sense. Putting aside the seniority implications (personally, I avoided getting furloughed by one class, but let's pretend that doesn't matter), just look at the pay differential. Every two weeks you delay the change, you're forgoing an additional pay check at the top of the pay scale at your future airline. Again, I'm not talking about whether or not you should leave in the first place, I'm talking about people that have done the analysis and decided that changing airlines makes the most sense for them. Every class date they miss costs way more than a few thousand dollars in lost earning potential.
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Old 05-01-2022, 06:24 PM
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Give up, his “mind” is made up…
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Well I’ve decided I’m holding the stock. HODL 🚀
I hope I don’t regret this
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Not that it makes it any better, the comments on how your management is “managing” attrition could literally be cut and pasted from our Alaska board here. “The culture”…. the lack of responsibility and solutions, etc. I’m a rock solid capitalist, but it’s breathtaking how when management needs hardware, fuel or more senior management, and they’re in short supply they chalk that up to the cost of doing business, but when labor is in short supply, they’ll burn the house down before they budge.

Anyway….. y’all aren’t alone in having to put up with it.
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Not that it makes it any better, the comments on how your management is “managing” attrition could literally be cut and pasted from our Alaska board here. “The culture”…. the lack of responsibility and solutions, etc. I’m a rock solid capitalist, but it’s breathtaking how when management needs hardware, fuel or more senior management, and they’re in short supply they chalk that up to the cost of doing business, but when labor is in short supply, they’ll burn the house down before they budge.

Anyway….. y’all aren’t alone in having to put up with it.
Yeah, but “We have to operate in New York! Nobody else has that challenge!”
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