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Old 02-04-2023, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
It's a bummer you turned down DL. They will likely open a BOS base at some point for the A321.
Havent they been dangling that carrot for like 10 years? Lol
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Old 02-05-2023, 05:41 AM
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At B6 if you don't mind reserve, you can have a very good quality of life with not a whole lot of seniority. I intentionally bid it for this reason other than summer time (too busy, get called everyday, more days at home w/line). You will sacrifice pay, and a few days off on your schedule, but you will ultimately spend a lot more time at home. The reason I got into flying (worklife balance, time off) is exactly what I'm getting now, maybe better than I envisioned. Unlike some other carriers once you get a trip as a reserve you are considered a line holder as far as reassignment protection, and B6 has some of the best, if not the best reassignment protection.
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Old 02-05-2023, 05:53 AM
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At B6 if you don't mind reserve, you can have a very good quality of life with not a whole lot of seniority. I intentionally bid it for this reason other than summer time (too busy, get called everyday, more days at home w/line). You will sacrifice pay, and a few days off on your schedule, but you will ultimately spend a lot more time at home. The reason I got into flying (worklife balance, time off) is exactly what I'm getting now, maybe better than I envisioned. Unlike some other carriers once you get a trip as a reserve you are considered a line holder as far as reassignment protection, and B6 has some of the best, if not the best reassignment protection.

I bid reserve, 13 years here. I made over $1000/hr block last year l. I wouldn’t say I gave up money. I spent less than 20 nights last year in hotels. I drop my kid off at school every day and pick him up. I go to practices and games, fix things around the house instead of hiring someone because I’m away. When I get called out, it’s like a new job. I don’t know most of the people I’ll fly with. I have no relationships with gate agents or flight attendants people see all the time like some that fly lines do. It’s a part time job.

Also, comparing W2’s with my buds at other carriers, there is no difference.


I wouldn’t mind doing some of the better layovers but not with the regularity of having a line or having to do that amount of work.
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Old 02-05-2023, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by V2500 View Post
BOS B6 is significantly bigger than AA with much better flying opportunities than AA and much better than what DL could muster IF they opened a tiny BOS base. There’s no comparison in schedules. If you want to be based in BOS and drive to work, B6 is the answer, hands down.
I was riding the Logan Airport Express bus to work last year sitting next to a senior AA captain based in BOS. He was telling me how excited he was that after over 15 years he’s coming in to work his first ever day turn. I don’t know AA’s BOS base schedules, but it sounds like you only see Boston on day 1 and 4. I’m on the A220, where a third of the pairings are day turns. I see my kids everyday and only pack a sandwich and an emergency toothbrush.
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Old 02-05-2023, 08:49 PM
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I have been “stalking” B6 for over a year. After the regionals I went back to corporate flying, but I really miss the known schedule. I like the Airbus and domestic flying, but as a west coaster not motivated to commute, I’m really put off by what I read about all the red eye flying out of LAX. In the short (and long) term, is there any work around for that? I worked graveyard for years as a cop, and I know it’s a young person’s game. Appreciate any perspective.
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Old 02-06-2023, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Huskypilot View Post
I have been “stalking” B6 for over a year. After the regionals I went back to corporate flying, but I really miss the known schedule. I like the Airbus and domestic flying, but as a west coaster not motivated to commute, I’m really put off by what I read about all the red eye flying out of LAX. In the short (and long) term, is there any work around for that? I worked graveyard for years as a cop, and I know it’s a young person’s game. Appreciate any perspective.
Bid Reserve and try to minimize your late evening flying by bidding early
morning SCR shifts.
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Old 02-06-2023, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawk1G View Post
Ouch…DAL will likely open BOS later this year. B6 BOS was a great experience for me personally. Had I lived locally I would have stayed with B6 for the remainder of my career.

Best of luck!!
Delta will open a BOS base in the fall. If he properly turned down the Delta offer with reasonable notice I suspect he could quickly get a class date if he contacts them.
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Old 02-06-2023, 07:38 AM
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OP, feel free to DM, but here's my take as another mil pilot...

There's a bar in the training center. The only other place I know of like that is WN. They're planning to build a rooftop bar on the next expansion. The reason I bring this up is not because alcohol is important, but because it sets a certain tone. First day I showed up, I found my buddy drinking with the CFO. Lots of stories of the CEO spending time there too. Like the individuals or not, it doesn't matter. Where else are you going to have a drink with company leadership and ask a couple of hard (yet polite!) questions face-to-face? Between that, the interview process, and the training atmosphere, it was immediately clear how laid back the company is. For me, that's important. I don't want the pomp and circumstance or the triple breasted suit and hat. I've been flying in a bag for years and I live somewhere with an extremely casual atmosphere. Nor am I interested in some of these companies that are essentially run like military 2.0. Yeah, we have our problems, but what a lot of keyboard warriors tend to overlook is that pilots at all these other companies b¡tch too. Yup, I hear all about 10-14 day trips to China flying nights and being confined to a hotel surrounded by barbed wire. Thankfully for you guys it sounds like that's ending, but the point is everyone has their own issues and I get to hear about it every month from my other-airline pals over drill weekend.

I've flown enough over the ocean for the military to have checked that box and know that I don't really care for it. Not at the cost of QOL or maintaining some semblance of normal sleep. I've got a handful of BOS friends who bid long call and brag about how they might get used once a month. They log more hours on Call of Duty or their J-3 Cubs than they do in the actual jet. They love it. Because of the hiring rate, I went from 100% to 80% at my base in less than six months. People say "money can't buy happiness," but the truth is more nuanced. A baseline level of money can most definitely contribute to happiness, however, after a certain point, money has nothing to do with happiness. I think we can all agree that it doesn't matter what airline you go to, you're going to find that baseline level and then some. For me, the NB pay here is so close to everywhere else that I don't spend time thinking about how someone else may have been paid $4 more per hour for the same work. It doesn't fučking matter. I've got decades ahead of me with B6, the pay is going to ebb and flow. Not to mention that you've got guys making 200-300% on the regular (that's because we have ops issues, which is another discussion...but money to be had just the same). We have new contract negotiations right around the corner which could only make the pilot group's financial situation better, not worse. I drive to work. Yeah, traffic sucks some days, but it's going to be the same traffic for any airline that hires me. If I go somewhere else, who knows how long I'd have to sit reserve and commute. I got home-based day one here. If you're looking for BOS, high chance of that happening.

Cons...We have too many internal apps and websites. I'd love for IT to get it together and put everything in one or two apps. Maybe that's asking too much, but look, a guy can dream. Mil leave paperwork process is slightly unstreamlined, though nobody has ever given me a problem or called the squadron to check up on me (*cough*Delta*cough*).

You have no bad choices in front of you. Do what makes you happy, be that staying where you're at or going elsewhere. What I always try to remind myself of is the guy in the squadron who is never happy. You know him. We all do. He's not happy in his current squadron, he's not happy in the next squadron...the dude just can't be happy. Strive not to be that guy, because it's an easy spiral to enter and one which will affect everyone in your proximity. Goodluck!

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Old 02-06-2023, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by V2500 View Post
New hires get BOS on the E190 and A320 immediately, not sure about the A220 as the deliveries are delayed
220 for new hires ebbs and flows. I think the last few classes have had quite a few, but there were months where I was losing relative seniority as the only people coming in were transitioning from other aircraft. There have been a few classes recently with 0 BOS, but with base trades, you'll *probably* get swapped from JFK pretty quick.
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Old 02-06-2023, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingmonkeys View Post
Havent they been dangling that carrot for like 10 years? Lol
Also I bet it goes pretty senior...
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