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Old 05-18-2023, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sludgefund View Post
OAK VB cerca 2008. Disaster
yeah it was!! It sounded so great until it wasn’t..
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Old 05-18-2023, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
yeah it was!! It sounded so great until it wasn’t..
Im assuming it was a disaster because trips started and ended from a virtual base (OAK).

In this instance the virtual base pairings still originate/terminate in a real base with real reserve staffing to cover trips just like a JFK reserve covers a trip flown by a LAX pilot who calls FTG while on a layover in JFK 😂
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Old 05-18-2023, 12:20 PM
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I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.
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Old 05-18-2023, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum View Post
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.
How did regular short call assignments work when nobody bid for it? Most junior legal reserve gets assigned the trip? Or earliest legal reserve like it is here at JB?
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Old 05-18-2023, 12:48 PM
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How did regular short call assignments work when nobody bid for it? Most junior legal reserve gets assigned the trip? Or earliest legal reserve like it is here at JB?
Most jr legal reserve automatically gets it. For whatever reason the most senior # gets you the earliest start time at JB which in a lot of cases makes you the most likely to get called first.

Seems backwards to me.
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Old 05-18-2023, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum View Post
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.
I'm assuming you mean something beside the FLICA bidding you can do the night before the DRO?
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Old 05-19-2023, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum View Post
I wish there was an option for commuters to list that they actually WANT to fly on reserve. I know many that don't get called as they sit in their crashpad and are upset about it, meanwhile I enjoy my time at home not getting those trips.

I liked the way my AA regional did it: A trip pops up and everyone in the bucket can say if they want it or not. Most senior pilot can say if they want the trip or not and it trickles down from there.
This sounds a lot like the way our system works for those who choose to pref bid a trip..
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Old 05-19-2023, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
This sounds a lot like the way our system works for those who choose to pref bid a trip..
Yes for LCR pref bidding next day trips is nice. It would be great if there was a generic “fly first/fly last” list for day of operations that would apply to both LCR and SCR. As long as a “fly first” guy is legal then he gets the trip.
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Old 05-19-2023, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 View Post
Joint company and ALPA pairing survey.

Go do it. The pairings are awful.

You would think the 6 month backlog of fatigue call reviews would be enough of a wake up call for the company but apparently they need us to spell it out for them.

This is the “profit sharing task force” of scheduling. I did it but it won’t change anything.
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Old 05-19-2023, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSmacFum View Post
Most jr legal reserve automatically gets it. For whatever reason the most senior # gets you the earliest start time at JB which in a lot of cases makes you the most likely to get called first.

Seems backwards to me.
I told them this when they were first negotiating the contract. they said, "well we have to do it one way or the other so we chose this way". I said they should have chosen the other way, and they should have us vote on it, but they didn't care.
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