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dreadFOroberts 10-02-2023 04:41 AM

class date soon...tips? advice?
 
Have a class date soon at B6 and wondering what those of you who've been there and done that wish you'd known before you started?

Excited and happy about the opportunity!

RJDriver900 10-02-2023 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3705186)
Have a class date soon at B6 and wondering what those of you who've been there and done that wish you'd known before you started?

Excited and happy about the opportunity!

Honestly looking back I wish I didn't stress as much as I did. Came from a regional and had the regional training mindset. Training at B6 is non stressful. Don't need to study or know anything beforehand. Depending what aircraft you get just follow the training material on the ipad. The course is laid out a specific way and as long as you do it that way you'll have no issues. Go in, trust the training process, relax and enjoy your time in training. All the instructors across two different types here have been great and will make sure you are set up for success. No surprises or curve balls here in training. Both times being at the school house for me have been enjoyable experiences.

Forward lav 10-02-2023 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3705186)
Have a class date soon at B6 and wondering what those of you who've been there and done that wish you'd known before you started?

Excited and happy about the opportunity!


if you can, a car.

Boomer 10-02-2023 06:58 AM

Study what they tell you to study. No more, no less. There are no trick questions… ever.

Forward lav 10-02-2023 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 3705240)
Study what they tell you to study. No more, no less. There are no trick questions… ever.


this.. don’t stress just be prepared. Go home if you can on downtime too.

avi8orco 10-02-2023 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Forward lav (Post 3705222)
if you can, a car.

Second this, food and atmosphere around JBU gets old. If you are in a position to road trip to Orlando so your car is available to you, do so. No need to wait for the busses. Food options and grocery stores are plentiful with a 5 to 10 min drive around JBU. Need a day to relax, or a good place to read your material? Jump on the Beachline 35 min to Cape Canaveral and Jetty Park, sit by the inlet and study while the boats go by. Fall is some of Florida's best weather by far.

DrSmacFum 10-02-2023 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by RJDriver900 (Post 3705205)
Honestly looking back I wish I didn't stress as much as I did. Came from a regional and had the regional training mindset. Training at B6 is non stressful. Don't need to study or know anything beforehand. Depending what aircraft you get just follow the training material on the ipad. The course is laid out a specific way and as long as you do it that way you'll have no issues. Go in, trust the training process, relax and enjoy your time in training. All the instructors across two different types here have been great and will make sure you are set up for success. No surprises or curve balls here in training. Both times being at the school house for me have been enjoyable experiences.

Yup +1.

I was definitely over stressing coming from regional training, during most of my time in training. Coming from a regional with an AWFUL training reputation, I was waiting for the instructor that didnt seem to care if I passed or failed, and it never happened. I felt confused because I wasnt being asked to know every nut & bolt on the BUS.

Towards the end I changed my mindset and just enjoyed it.

dreadFOroberts 10-02-2023 02:32 PM

Great stuff. Thank you for the info!

They'll probably address this at some point at the beginning, but....are wives/girlfriends allowed to visit? I suspect not, but figured I would ask. I haven't seen a training footprint/calendar yet but I'd imagine that's coming.

FLPilot3190 10-02-2023 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3705444)
Great stuff. Thank you for the info!

They'll probably address this at some point at the beginning, but....are wives/girlfriends allowed to visit? I suspect not, but figured I would ask. I haven't seen a training footprint/calendar yet but I'd imagine that's coming.

yes they can visit but they’re only allowed in common areas. The hotel part of the lodge is off-limits.

dontsurf 10-02-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3705444)
are wives/girlfriends allowed to visit?

not at the same time

Forward lav 10-03-2023 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3705444)
Great stuff. Thank you for the info!

They'll probably address this at some point at the beginning, but....are wives/girlfriends allowed to visit? I suspect not, but figured I would ask. I haven't seen a training footprint/calendar yet but I'd imagine that's coming.

yea but not on the lodge area, get a hotel room off of Semoran road while they are in town. Really fair prices and a lot of food options. Make sure you get your wife a nicer room than your girlfriend.

GogoYoyo 10-07-2023 08:42 AM

Go see Kevin

SonicFlyer 10-07-2023 05:18 PM

What made regional training so much harder than JB?

RSRVWINDSURFR 10-07-2023 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by dontsurf (Post 3705463)
not at the same time

Well played, sir. Well played.

dreadFOroberts 10-29-2023 06:01 AM

Do any of you have insight on bases in terms of seniority progression? I'd be a commuter no matter what, so trying to see what the shortest path, bid-wise, to a line is.

Tornado875 10-29-2023 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3716986)
Do any of you have insight on bases in terms of seniority progression? I'd be a commuter no matter what, so trying to see what the shortest path, bid-wise, to a line is.

BOS E190 is the fastest seniority progression by a large margin.

dreadFOroberts 10-30-2023 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by Tornado875 (Post 3717027)
BOS E190 is the fastest seniority progression by a large margin.

I've wondered about that. With the 190 being phased out, does it make sense to bid the 190 now, ride the speed of that seniority, and then leverage that to bid over to whatever 220 or 320 flying there is?

Or does it make MORE sense to bid 220 now? I understand how seniority works at my single-type regional, but not with disparate fleet types/changes like B6 is facing.

Flyby1206 10-30-2023 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3717392)
I've wondered about that. With the 190 being phased out, does it make sense to bid the 190 now, ride the speed of that seniority, and then leverage that to bid over to whatever 220 or 320 flying there is?

Or does it make MORE sense to bid 220 now? I understand how seniority works at my single-type regional, but not with disparate fleet types/changes like B6 is facing.

If seniority progression is your main goal then bid the 190. Yes the fleet is being reduced but it will be the fastest way to a line for the first year you're here. Bidding the 220 now just ensures that you'll be junior longer, since many 190 FOs (and some 320 FOs) will transfer in above you.

flosd 10-30-2023 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3716986)
Do any of you have insight on bases in terms of seniority progression? I'd be a commuter no matter what, so trying to see what the shortest path, bid-wise, to a line is.

Terrible for jfk 320. I'm going to lose 3% relative seniority by Dec 2024

panpanpan 10-30-2023 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3716986)
Do any of you have insight on bases in terms of seniority progression? I'd be a commuter no matter what, so trying to see what the shortest path, bid-wise, to a line is.


Go to American if you want seniority progression. Jetblue is not the place.

avi8orco 10-30-2023 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by dreadFOroberts (Post 3716986)
Do any of you have insight on bases in terms of seniority progression? I'd be a commuter no matter what, so trying to see what the shortest path, bid-wise, to a line is.

just to give you perspective…yes, my relative seniority company wide has improved as we have a much larger list since then, however, I’ve been here just about 10 years, I’ve moved up just under 500 numbers in that time. I know guys at AA for close to the same number of years that have moved up, thousands of numbers and counting, by the several hundreds per quarter.

If you want progression, it’s not here. Especially If you have to commute, go to AA, etc., make your commute worthwhile.

Noisecanceller 10-30-2023 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3717731)
just to give you perspective…yes, my relative seniority company wide has improved as we have a much larger list since then, however, I’ve been here just about 10 years, I’ve moved up just under 500 numbers in that time. I know guys at AA for close to the same number of years that have moved up, thousands of numbers and counting, by the several hundreds per quarter.

If you want progression, it’s not here. Especially If you have to commute, go to AA, etc., make your commute worthwhile.


Numbers don’t matter. Relative seniority progression is all that matters.

panpanpan 10-30-2023 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3717759)
Numbers don’t matter. Relative seniority progression is all that matters.


Even relative seniority wise, AA is a far better choice for seniority progression.

Noisecanceller 10-30-2023 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by panpanpan (Post 3717769)
Even relative seniority wise, AA is a far better choice for seniority progression.


No doubt just pointing out the flaw in the previous post.


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