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JayRalstonSmith 07-16-2025 08:40 AM

Bang up job by the MEC
 
Great job guys. Who wanted VILs anyway for September?


PeakEGT 07-16-2025 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3928984)
Great job guys. Who wanted VILs anyway for September?


Only a select few. Doesn’t help the grid out and what else are we gaining from it?

Supermid 07-16-2025 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith (Post 3928984)
Great job guys. Who wanted VILs anyway for September?

Great job on what? I think the union are a bunch of clowns but I agree with this: do not give them an inch, even if it means layoffs. This company is a complete embarrassment, even before the dancing bear app and FLICAgeddon.

avi8orco 07-16-2025 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3929072)
Great job on what? I think the union are a bunch of clowns but I agree with this: do not give them an inch, even if it means layoffs. This company is a complete embarrassment, even before the dancing bear app and FLICAgeddon.

Wont be layoffs, it’ll be bankruptcy. They have a big payment in I think it’s month and half or so, give or take??? They don’t have the money for it and they know it.

I’ve been down this road, twice. It’s a very easy way to void and rewrite labor contracts by crying to the judge and having them shove it down our throat. The judges care very little about the labor force over the lien and shareholders

Swakid8 07-16-2025 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3929085)
Wont be layoffs, it’ll be bankruptcy. They have a big payment in I think it’s month and half or so, give or take??? They don’t have the money for it and they know it.

I’ve been down this road, twice. It’s a very easy way to void and rewrite labor contracts by crying to the judge and having them shove it down our throat. The judges care very little about the labor force over the lien and shareholders

New bankrupty laws make it difficult to do that…

avi8orco 07-16-2025 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Supermid (Post 3929072)
FLICAgeddon.

speaking of…I got a good chuckle out of reading both WC and CL’s emails in succession today.

one says help the operation and go on there and pick up trips, the other says we know Flica is basically useless and we’ll get to it next year.

HogEars 07-16-2025 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by PeakEGT;[url=tel:3929059
3929059]Only a select few. Doesn’t help the grid out and what else are we gaining from it?

Exactly.

Some seats rarely got a chance to bid for them. VILs weren’t distributed evenly. Poorly written LOA.

The VESP should’ve been the first bandage, not the second.

PeakEGT 07-16-2025 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by HogEars (Post 3929097)
Exactly.

Some seats rarely got a chance to bid for them. VILs weren’t distributed evenly. Poorly written LOA.

The VESP should’ve been the first bandage, not the second.

Im sure they’ll find an excuse as to not having the flexibility of VILs to why the System bid shows no growth or movement.

HogEars 07-16-2025 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=PeakEGT;[url=tel:3929103]3929103[/url]]Im sure they’ll find an excuse as to not having the flexibility of VILs to why the System bid shows no growth or movement.[/QUOTE

The unfortunate aspect of this is that 74% of the pilot group would believe it.

FriendlyPilot 07-16-2025 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3929085)
I’ve been down this road, twice. It’s a very easy way to void and rewrite labor contracts by crying to the judge and having them shove it down our throat. The judges care very little about the labor force over the lien and shareholders

Spirit just went through CH 11. No contracts were terminated. Its because this is more difficult now that a lot of other hurdles have to be crossed by management before a judge will sign off on amending union labor agreements.


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