5 yr contract
 

I heard that a 5th yr JB Captain got his fith yr reward to a reduction in pay to first yr FO pay, but he got to keep his Captain position. Is this what JB pilots have to look forward to every 5 yrs?

Yawn. Flamebait.

Valid Question
 

I think it is a valid question:cool: If it is false, just say so......

False

Nice try though. Keep up the good work sparky.

It's not a valid question. It's brainless speculation and crewroom bullsh!t. I find it hard to believe that anyone actually thought this rumor was even slightly plausible. It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, really, reset your pay to the bottom every five years? Who comes up with this stuff?

Your right!
 

The word is finally out. It does not matter who you are, every 5 years your start over. Infact, they decided in the last contract to change it to 3 years. Now, no one will ever make captian pay due to the fact that it is now a 3 year upgrade. Wow! What kind of "wkrap" is next? Airbus is now paying us to take their airplanes because they cannot find someone to pay for them. Thanks for the laugh, now get back to your telemarketing.

Still a valid question
 

I didn't say it was not plausible, I just said it was a valid question. Why are you Jet Blue guys so uptight! Just say it is false....... Man, I always let you guys on the justseat out of FLL. Lighten up! Oh, I am sorry the world is against JB. Come on you guys are growing, it could be worse like having 500 guy on the street.

If possible, can someone have the maturity to stay away from flightinfo.com type responses? What is the real deal with this "5-year contract?" Please - if you have to be sarcastic to provide this info, don't bother. If I want to see pilots acting like 4-year-olds, I'll just log into flightinfo.

Sorry, long day.

Based on the responses from presumed JB employees, the rumor your asking them to comment on is without merit.

LOL - yeah, got it.

However, I wasn't the one asking about the rumor - I asked what the stipulations ("the deal") with the supposed 5-year contract. Anyone have any info? Is it just a training note, or is there something linked to performance over five years or what?

Thats OK
 

Thats OK, I have had one myself. Anyway, whats the deal with the 5 year contract. Thanks

There is no deal. This is simply a recurring 'urban legend' about guys getting creamed at year 5.

The '5 year' is simply the LENGTH of the terms of the contract and remain unchanged and automatically renew until renegotiated. Sound familiar???

BTW, thanks for all the rides. :)

Cool, Thanks for schooling me and your welcome.

Do any Jet Blue pilots anticipate that a new contract is something desirable or are you guys pretty content with the status quo?
Also is this 5 year contract negociated on a one-on-one basis or do all pilots hitting their 5 year point recieve some type of new contract?
Just asking, not intending to stir the pot.

When you reach your 5-yr point, your current contract automatically renews. If the contract terms change, they change for everyone at once. The last time they tried to change any of the terms, there was, shall we say, unrest among the ranks. It ultimately didn't happen. The last change of any consequence was the addition of E190 rates to the pay schedule, and it was not well received. The contract (absent the new pay scale) hasn't changed substantially from the beginning of oparations.

Some QOL items (scheduling, flight and duty limits, some pay policies, etc.) aren't even written into contract terms, only incorporated by reference. If there is much dissatisfaction, it will be found there. For good or ill, those terms can be easily changed. So far there has been willingness to take pilot input and change them for the better, but that's not the same as having contract language. As things stand now, with this management team, I haven't had any problem with this approach, but I suspect some on this board disagree.

As Bluedude notes, when first class hit five year mark last year, a new contract for everyone was presented. There was much discontent, so management rescinded the new contract and just added an addendum to the old one, including the pay scale for the 190.

I, for one, am fairly content for now, but I expect to get a raise when our margins get back up (whenever that happens...$25 intro fares on new routes and 59$ transcon fares for "buddies" will not help our yields!). If that does not happen, and if stock price does not go up, and profit sharing dries up...stand by.

This forum is getting slow.... Is this the only new stuff on here? JB guys/gals will have a turn in the ringer.... Just wait... Happens to the best of em!

Clearly Rubbish
 

I must admit, this must be false, if it wans't JB would not be holding nearly 20,000 applications. For the JB drivers responding.... R E L A X :-)

Ian, you would jump at a chance to work for B6, even at $37/hour. There are plenty of qualified guys/gals who would love to leave Mesa, Sky West and the likes for anything with more potential.