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Old 11-21-2018, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
It isn’t a requirement for us that is for sure. Should and must are very different.
“It’s not only a requirement for keeping your pass riding privileges...”

This is from his email. There is contradictory guidance out there...
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Old 11-21-2018, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
“It’s not only a requirement for keeping your pass riding privileges...”

This is from his email. There is contradictory guidance out there...
What at jetblue isn’t contradicting itself.
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Old 11-21-2018, 05:36 PM
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Uncle Paul says “The FAA recently posted an interpretation that non-rev duties of “de minimus” cleaning or other light activities are not considered duty when commuting. The interpretation was requested by our Legal department to clarify confusion surrounding what activities constitute duty. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Chief Pilot.”

De minimus cleaning it is then. My seatbelt will be crossed and the seatback will be cleaned out.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Uncle Paul says “The FAA recently posted an interpretation that non-rev duties of “de minimus” cleaning or other light activities are not considered duty when commuting. The interpretation was requested by our Legal department to clarify confusion surrounding what activities constitute duty. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Chief Pilot.”

De minimus cleaning it is then. My seatbelt will be crossed and the seatback will be cleaned out.
The only place I have seen this interpretation is in a chief pilot email. He didn't include anything from the FAA. The only official FAA guidance on the issue I have seen says ANY DUTY required by the air carrier begins your clock.

If they begin enforcing this I will duty on every time. Right now I just refuse. I just non reved sitting by a non pilot and they didn't clean either. Word is getting out.
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:34 PM
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I never clean. Even had a flight attendant swap seats with me (cause I was in the last row originally) because she said she didn’t want to clean and knew if I was in the front I’d just walk right off. (Wasn’t upset in saying that. Actually was laughing)
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
It isn’t a requirement for us that is for sure. Should and must are very different.
It says it's a "requirement".
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Old 11-21-2018, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
It says it's a "requirement".
Skimmed over that part of the email. Ya I don’t care what they say. I’d do the same exact thing if I was sitting next to
Giggigty and whoever it was that wrote that email.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Skimmed over that part of the email. Ya I don’t care what they say. I’d do the same exact thing if I was sitting next to
Giggigty and whoever it was that wrote that email.
And a new FAA interpretation. The company is clearly coming guns blazing on this. There will be discipline soon.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
And a new FAA interpretation. The company is clearly coming guns blazing on this. There will be discipline soon.
What is the new faa interpretation? I still won’t clean. F em all.
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Old 11-21-2018, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
What is the new faa interpretation? I still won’t clean. F em all.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf

Where’s queue at
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