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04-07-2019, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
THe FCOM is my bible, I suggest you make it yours. Just because the NEO has a bowing issue that requires the cooldown does not negate the fact that engine cooling procedures have existed for just about every modern engine today. Including the CEOs. I will always strive to cool down for 3 minutes as Airbus has stated. You don’t have to.
04-07-2019, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
Likewise...You made the statement "...trying to explain why I violated SOP..." and to that end my only intention is to clarify that the FCOM VOL 1, Normal Procedures, Expanded states "CEO: Engines may be shut down upon gate arrival regardless of 3-minute cool down period." If I'm not mistaken that is an approved procedure and therefore SOP, however I'm most certainly open to correction on that stated SOP.
So many contradictions in our manuals...
04-07-2019, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Touché, Salesman! Hadn’t seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but it’s nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.
So many contradictions in our manuals...
So many contradictions in our manuals...
04-07-2019, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Touché, Salesman! Hadn’t seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but it’s nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.
So many contradictions in our manuals...
So many contradictions in our manuals...
04-07-2019, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
THe FCOM is my bible, I suggest you make it yours. Just because the NEO has a bowing issue that requires the cooldown does not negate the fact that engine cooling procedures have existed for just about every modern engine today. Including the CEOs. I will always strive to cool down for 3 minutes as Airbus has stated. You don’t have to.
Originally Posted by HighFlight
Touché, Salesman! Hadn’t seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but it’s nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.
So many contradictions in our manuals...
So many contradictions in our manuals...
04-07-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263
No worries, the good book's teachings can undoubtedly be left open to various interpretations at times.
04-08-2019, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Ain’t THAT the truth? Just be sure you don’t engage the AP if you are the PF. (Unless you read the OTHER part of the FCOM, that is. Then it is OK.)
Not surprised.
04-08-2019, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
I'll look it up here in a bit. But I'm guessing it is a "should or may" vs Will or must.
That would be a deciding factor in if it must be followed.
Example: Method 2 for Airbus guys states, the PF should put in the points Associated with M2. Since it says “should” you don’t have to do it. It’s only a recommendation.
That would be a deciding factor in if it must be followed.
Example: Method 2 for Airbus guys states, the PF should put in the points Associated with M2. Since it says “should” you don’t have to do it. It’s only a recommendation.
"Must" provides no flexibility, unless exercising emergency authority.
In other words, if you do something contrary to a "should," you might need to be able to explain your good reasoning why you didn't follow the guidance. It isn't the case that you can just say, "Oh, that's only a recommendation."
04-08-2019, 11:34 AM
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Hey does anyone know how LORs are done? Is it ONLY via attachment in the application? Or is there a way to send one internally? Asking for a friend (ok actually me) who sent his app in and now has some LORs he wants to add..
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