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Old 04-07-2019, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
THe FCOM is my bible, I suggest you make it yours. Just because the NEO has a bowing issue that requires the cooldown does not negate the fact that engine cooling procedures have existed for just about every modern engine today. Including the CEOs. I will always strive to cool down for 3 minutes as Airbus has stated. You don’t have to.
Likewise...You made the statement "...trying to explain why I violated SOP..." and to that end my only intention is to clarify that the FCOM VOL 1, Normal Procedures, Expanded states "CEO: Engines may be shut down upon gate arrival regardless of 3-minute cool down period." If I'm not mistaken that is an approved procedure and therefore SOP, however I'm most certainly open to correction on that stated SOP.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:12 PM
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Likewise...You made the statement "...trying to explain why I violated SOP..." and to that end my only intention is to clarify that the FCOM VOL 1, Normal Procedures, Expanded states "CEO: Engines may be shut down upon gate arrival regardless of 3-minute cool down period." If I'm not mistaken that is an approved procedure and therefore SOP, however I'm most certainly open to correction on that stated SOP.
Touchť, Salesman! Hadnít seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but itís nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.

So many contradictions in our manuals...
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:16 PM
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Touchť, Salesman! Hadnít seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but itís nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.

So many contradictions in our manuals...
and on APC?........
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:19 PM
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Touchť, Salesman! Hadnít seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but itís nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.

So many contradictions in our manuals...
Wasnít sure where you were pulling the time from. Especially since you were saying the FCOM was the Bible. Haha. No hard feeling just donít have the iPad with me to pull it up.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight View Post
THe FCOM is my bible, I suggest you make it yours. Just because the NEO has a bowing issue that requires the cooldown does not negate the fact that engine cooling procedures have existed for just about every modern engine today. Including the CEOs. I will always strive to cool down for 3 minutes as Airbus has stated. You donít have to.
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Touchť, Salesman! Hadnít seen that new change to the manual, thanks for the correction! I have always strived to accomplish the 3 minutes, and I shall continue, but itís nice to know I cannot be reprimanded for not doing so.

So many contradictions in our manuals...
No worries, the good book's teachings can undoubtedly be left open to various interpretations at times.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:32 PM
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No worries, the good book's teachings can undoubtedly be left open to various interpretations at times.
Ainít THAT the truth? Just be sure you donít engage the AP if you are the PF. (Unless you read the OTHER part of the FCOM, that is. Then it is OK.)
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:27 AM
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It says we must "ensure" that you have a "minimum" of 2/5 mins.
Well there you have it then. You must do it.
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:39 AM
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Ainít THAT the truth? Just be sure you donít engage the AP if you are the PF. (Unless you read the OTHER part of the FCOM, that is. Then it is OK.)
Does it really say it both ways in there now?


Not surprised.
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Old 04-08-2019, 08:52 AM
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I'll look it up here in a bit. But I'm guessing it is a "should or may" vs Will or must.

That would be a deciding factor in if it must be followed.

Example: Method 2 for Airbus guys states, the PF should put in the points Associated with M2. Since it says ďshouldĒ you donít have to do it. Itís only a recommendation.
Should isn't a "recommendation" in FAA world. Should essentially means that item is required unless you have a good reason not to. It gives a little flexibility, but not much.

"Must" provides no flexibility, unless exercising emergency authority.

In other words, if you do something contrary to a "should," you might need to be able to explain your good reasoning why you didn't follow the guidance. It isn't the case that you can just say, "Oh, that's only a recommendation."
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:34 AM
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