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Old 09-14-2021, 11:40 AM
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Thanks for the responses everyone.

what are the current wait times between the Phone screening and Face to Face interview? And then between F2F and class dates?
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:15 PM
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In terms of the commuter policy is it two flights before show time to be protected?
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Old 09-14-2021, 02:47 PM
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In terms of the commuter policy is it two flights before show time to be protected?
one online or two offline. But define protected. You can still get hit with a dependability review (FOM) for missed commutes even if you’re in compliance with the CBA commuter clause.
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Old 09-14-2021, 03:06 PM
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The CBA specifics how many 1,2,3,4,5 trips they need to built at a minimum! There is also a provision how many 4/5 day trips need to be commutable. Commutable is defined as report after 1100 and release prior to 1800.
outsider here. Is there a chance you could expand on that and what the contract says specifically? Like what those numbers are.

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Old 09-14-2021, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
outsider here. Is there a chance you could expand on that and what the contract says specifically? Like what those numbers are.

thanks!
Maximum Segments per Duty Period a. b. A320/A321: four (4) E190: five (5) 11 . A Pairing shall not contain more Duty Periods than calendar days . 12. A Pairing shall not touch more than five (5) calendar days. 13 . Commutable Pairings A commutable Pairing shall have a report time after 1100 and a release time prior to1800 . a. b . A four (4) duty – five (5) day Pairing shall be commutable. A minimum of thirty percent (30%) of the four (4) day Pairings system wide shall be commutable per fleet. 14 . Pairing Distribution a. b. c. One (1) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide Two (2) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide Three (3) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide . d. Four (4) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide and a maximum of fifty percent (50%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status . e . Five (5) day Pairings shall account for a maximum of ten percent (10%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status .

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Old 09-14-2021, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Maximum Segments per Duty Period a. b. A320/A321: four (4) E190: five (5) 11 . A Pairing shall not contain more Duty Periods than calendar days . 12. A Pairing shall not touch more than five (5) calendar days. 13 . Commutable Pairings A commutable Pairing shall have a report time after 1100 and a release time prior to1800 . a. b . A four (4) duty – five (5) day Pairing shall be commutable. A minimum of thirty percent (30%) of the four (4) day Pairings system wide shall be commutable per fleet. 14 . Pairing Distribution a. b. c. One (1) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide Two (2) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide Three (3) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide . d. Four (4) day Pairings shall account for a minimum of five percent (5%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status and a minimum of ten percent (10%) system wide and a maximum of fifty percent (50%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status . e . Five (5) day Pairings shall account for a maximum of ten percent (10%) of the Pairings in each Base and Status .

sorry for the formatting. Copy/paste doesn’t work well and I don’t have time to fix it.
thanks beat Navy! Delta guy here and our trips are really being build badly at the moment, just curious what protections other carriers have.

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Old 09-14-2021, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lrjtdriver View Post
Does anybody know how to access the fingerprinting application online? It’s part of the interview checklist but I’m not seeing a link or any other info.
Did you ever get your question answered? I am having the same issue: the blueonboarding.jetblue fingerprint website will not let me register and no response from JB Recruiting. TIA
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Old 09-14-2021, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
thanks beat Navy! Delta guy here and our trips are really being build badly at the moment, just curious what protections other carriers have.

cheers
We have a slew of other “industry leading” pairing construction rules. But when we got the contract, the company got rid of the project pilot in scheduling and just put them straight into the sodomizer to contractual minimums, and they were unsustainably bad and caused so many timeouts and fatigues they backed off a little. But we blew thru our premium budget in flight ops real quick this year because it’s still bad, so…it hasn’t really been fixed. We were sold on “industry leading poring construction rules” then when that happened the union said “we didn’t think they’d do that.” Frustrating. Sounds similar to what you guys are experiencing at delta. There are more I can submit in here but it’ll be jumbled and look bad. If I get more time I’ll try to throw some in a PM or in here if you want
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Old 09-14-2021, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
We have a slew of other “industry leading” pairing construction rules. But when we got the contract, the company got rid of the project pilot in scheduling and just put them straight into the sodomizer to contractual minimums, and they were unsustainably bad and caused so many timeouts and fatigues they backed off a little. But we blew thru our premium budget in flight ops real quick this year because it’s still bad, so…it hasn’t really been fixed. We were sold on “industry leading poring construction rules” then when that happened the union said “we didn’t think they’d do that.” Frustrating. Sounds similar to what you guys are experiencing at delta. There are more I can submit in here but it’ll be jumbled and look bad. If I get more time I’ll try to throw some in a PM or in here if you want
yeah that sounds all too familiar… “we can save $x with the optimizer” followed by record setting premium flying to cover their poor planning. what you posted before sounds like it would be an improvement here. if you don’t mind I would appreciate the PM.

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Old 09-14-2021, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
one online or two offline. But define protected. You can still get hit with a dependability review (FOM) for missed commutes even if you’re in compliance with the CBA commuter clause.
Thanks for the response. The regional I'm at its two flights for no punitive action. Just lose out on pay from missed flights till you can catch up on your pairing.
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