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Old 02-25-2022, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by aznpilot87 View Post
Hey guys,

What are the Junior FO bases on the A320, 190 and 220s at the moment?
Anyone care to share the average yearly gross on the 1st year FO?

How's the QoL vs the other ULCC?

Thanks
Why don't take the time to actually read the threads instead of having the information just spoon-fed to you??
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Old 02-25-2022, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
Why don't take the time to actually read the threads instead of having the information just spoon-fed to you??
Noted your reponse

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Old 02-25-2022, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by aznpilot87 View Post
Hey guys,

What are the Junior FO bases on the A320, 190 and 220s at the moment?
Anyone care to share the average yearly gross on the 1st year FO?

How's the QoL vs the other ULCC?

Thanks
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A320 - JFK, BOS, LAX (Last class did not receive BOS as an option)
E190 - JFK, BOS
A220 - BOS (only base currently for 220)
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Old 02-25-2022, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aznpilot87 View Post
Hey guys,

What are the Junior FO bases on the A320, 190 and 220s at the moment?
Anyone care to share the average yearly gross on the 1st year FO?

How's the QoL vs the other ULCC?

Thanks

QOL is very dependent on what you want. If you wanna be home every night allegiant has a better quality of life. If you want a guaranteed block of days off then spirt is for you. Don’t know much about frontier.
Reading here the 190 is the mostly backed up with training and the training pay is not very good.

Someone actually in training may have better answers.
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TangoIndiaMike1 View Post
QOL is very dependent on what you want. If you wanna be home every night allegiant has a better quality of life. If you want a guaranteed block of days off then spirt is for you. Don’t know much about frontier.
Reading here the 190 is the mostly backed up with training and the training pay is not very good.

Someone actually in training may have better answers.
190 training is falling off the rails right now. I was assigned recurrent 3 months early from last year only for them to cancel it and they still haven’t updated me. I think they are intentionally doing that knowing full well the $..t is going to hit the fan and hoping they’ll be get you in at some point before you dequalify.

I fly with instructors doing their fly days regularly…when they actually let them fly….and all I hear is how the school house is falling apart and they’ll never have a prayer in doing the training they think they are going to get through this year.
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
190 training is falling off the rails right now. I was assigned recurrent 3 months early from last year only for them to cancel it and they still haven’t updated me. I think they are intentionally doing that knowing full well the $..t is going to hit the fan and hoping they’ll be get you in at some point before you dequalify.

I fly with instructors doing their fly days regularly…when they actually let them fly….and all I hear is how the school house is falling apart and they’ll never have a prayer in doing the training they think they are going to get through this year.
Should be no surprise. Allowing the current attrition without taking corrective action is going to be a staffing disaster.

They put together a $4.5 BILLION dollar package to aquire VA in a few weeks. They can preemptively agree to an amazing contract in the same timeframe, if they wanted.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:04 AM
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Should be no surprise. Allowing the current attrition without taking corrective action is going to be a staffing disaster.

They put together a $4.5 BILLION dollar package to aquire VA in a few weeks. They can preemptively agree to an amazing contract in the same timeframe, if they wanted.
In the end the plane's are moving so attrition isn't that big of a problem. Just glancing at the VDA list for my base and seat, there are 10 guys staring at their phone's blank screen praying for it to ring with a NY number. That's in addition to the other Flica stalkers that will do it for 50% less when the little X pops up. In the end, flights are notoriously late which we know we are famous for but the people get there. Top brass get's their stock distributions worth millions as said in another post: '85,000 > RH , 55,555 > JG". The rest will get their bonuses, and we get to deal with the aftermath when somebody didn't bother to book you a hotel and you are standing in the terminal at 2am with the janitors staring at you while on hold and off the clock.

Why put out more and make it legal with a contract when you can just throw in a few quarts of oil to replace what is getting burned rather than paying for an overhaul.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
In the end the plane's are moving so attrition isn't that big of a problem. Just glancing at the VDA list for my base and seat, there are 10 guys staring at their phone's blank screen praying for it to ring with a NY number. That's in addition to the other Flica stalkers that will do it for 50% less when the little X pops up. In the end, flights are notoriously late which we know we are famous for but the people get there. Top brass get's their stock distributions worth millions as said in another post: '85,000 > RH , 55,555 > JG". The rest will get their bonuses, and we get to deal with the aftermath when somebody didn't bother to book you a hotel and you are standing in the terminal at 2am with the janitors staring at you while on hold and off the clock.

Why put out more and make it legal with a contract when you can just throw in a few quarts of oil to replace what is getting burned rather than paying for an overhaul.
Sadly 100% correct and these woke NY cubicle dwellers are so arrogant and anti-pilot they’d rather the wheels fall off and just change the demographic of pilots they hire rather than competitively compensate the ones they have-attract quality applicants.
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Old 02-26-2022, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Combatcraig View Post
Sadly 100% correct and these woke NY cubicle dwellers are so arrogant and anti-pilot they’d rather the wheels fall off and just change the demographic of pilots they hire rather than competitively compensate the ones they have-attract quality applicants.
This is about more than being anti-pilot. This “management” team is just straight up incompetent. We’re running a scheduled service and on time performance isn’t even in their top 10 priorities. Easy fix though. Just blame all the “business partners” and the icy ramps. I’m actually starting to get a bit worried about our future.
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Old 02-26-2022, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8orco View Post
190 training is falling off the rails right now. I was assigned recurrent 3 months early from last year only for them to cancel it and they still haven’t updated me. I think they are intentionally doing that knowing full well the $..t is going to hit the fan and hoping they’ll be get you in at some point before you dequalify.

I fly with instructors doing their fly days regularly…when they actually let them fly….and all I hear is how the school house is falling apart and they’ll never have a prayer in doing the training they think they are going to get through this year.
The 190 is having bad issues in Orlando. Classmates whos break were longer than mine who went to dallas are already done. My loe has been rescheduled 4 or 5 times already in orlando.... lol
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