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#2312
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I had a copy of a letter my current employer received from the FAA on their records check when I was hired and can't remember if on the letter there is a section confirming any checkride failures or not. I know it listed all my certificates.
So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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Last edited by eman; 08-04-2014 at 07:48 AM. Reason: content
#2313
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602

I had a copy of a letter my current employer received from the FAA on their records check when I was hired and can't remember if on the letter there is a section confirming any checkride failures or not. I know it listed all my certificates.
So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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The basic airman info is maintained on microfiche (but is required to be computerized in a database as part of the modified PRIA from the Airline Safety Act of 2010). Those files contain the results of knowledge (written) and practical exams. They cannot be released without specific permission from the pilot (or a court order). Unless the airline specifically requests them (and a pilot signs off) they will not get the results of a practical or written. Typical PRIA requests include only AIS and EIS not basic airman info.
Inspectors can request a "blue ribbon package" (called so internally because of a hole punched through all the pages and secured by a blue ribbon). This is everything the FAA has on you from day 1.
You can get a copy of everything by writing to:
FAA Airman certification branch
AFS-760
PO Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
Name, address, date and place of birth, cert number, and signature are required.
I'm writing an article that incorporates this info so I've been researching it quite a bit lately. The database is not completed yet. Once online, the airline will have access to everything including performance related issues from prior employers - or interestingly enough, internal standardization flights in part 91 departments if they indicate unsatisfactory performance. This is all covered by PRIA.
#2314
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,926

Sounds like a failure to me if you had to return the next day to be re-trained on a maneuver. Maybe check your logbook and see what it says in the remarks section.
#2315
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 787

I had a copy of a letter my current employer received from the FAA on their records check when I was hired and can't remember if on the letter there is a section confirming any checkride failures or not. I know it listed all my certificates.
So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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So...I remember my CFI checkride 1st attempt was unsuccessful due to the demonstration of a maneuver, I logged additional training the next day and a day later passed the CFI checkride with the same DPE. For the life of me I cannot remember if I was given a "fail" or not. I put that I failed a checkride on my application and attached an explanation letter. But lately am wondering if it's even on there as a fail and if it's going to hurt my chances of getting a shot at interviewing. Any thoughts?
I know I should have copies of all records I can buy, but finances are dismal on minimum wage, I don't even fill up my gas tank lol.
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#2316
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289

Same thing I'm thinking...wish I could remember if I got any pink slip that day. Better safe than sorry and I put an explanation on my app. Unfortunately the DPE didn't touch my logbook or add anything to the remark I entered. But since I have my checkrides tabbed, anyone can see there's 2 entries for "CFI checkride"
How big a deal is having this on an application? I'm an eternal optimist and accept reality...getting these interviews feels like playing the lottery!
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#2317
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289

Same exact thing happened to me... It's considered a failure. There's 3 outcomes of a checkride: Sat, Unsat, and letter of discontinuance (weather or mechanical cause the checkride to stop). Considering you did get a sat or LOD on the first try, I believe it's considered an unsat. I busted steep turns (dumb mistake) but was able to complete the other parts of the checkride. Was an unsat, I retrained steep turns, and the next day went up and did just steep turns with the DPE... I definitely disclose it on any applications.
Hahaha this is exactly what I didn't perform to standards. I wasn't smooth enough for his taste...funny day. Anyways I took it all in stride and was cool with it. Maybe we had the same examiner...
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#2318
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 289

The FAA maintains three different types of records: Enforcement action (EIS), accident/incidents (AID), and basic airman information.
The basic airman info is maintained on microfiche (but is required to be computerized in a database as part of the modified PRIA from the Airline Safety Act of 2010). Those files contain the results of knowledge (written) and practical exams. They cannot be released without specific permission from the pilot (or a court order). Unless the airline specifically requests them (and a pilot signs off) they will not get the results of a practical or written. Typical PRIA requests include only AIS and EIS not basic airman info.
Inspectors can request a "blue ribbon package" (called so internally because of a hole punched through all the pages and secured by a blue ribbon). This is everything the FAA has on you from day 1.
You can get a copy of everything by writing to:
FAA Airman certification branch
AFS-760
PO Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
Name, address, date and place of birth, cert number, and signature are required.
I'm writing an article that incorporates this info so I've been researching it quite a bit lately. The database is not completed yet. Once online, the airline will have access to everything including performance related issues from prior employers - or interestingly enough, internal standardization flights in part 91 departments if they indicate unsatisfactory performance. This is all covered by PRIA.
The basic airman info is maintained on microfiche (but is required to be computerized in a database as part of the modified PRIA from the Airline Safety Act of 2010). Those files contain the results of knowledge (written) and practical exams. They cannot be released without specific permission from the pilot (or a court order). Unless the airline specifically requests them (and a pilot signs off) they will not get the results of a practical or written. Typical PRIA requests include only AIS and EIS not basic airman info.
Inspectors can request a "blue ribbon package" (called so internally because of a hole punched through all the pages and secured by a blue ribbon). This is everything the FAA has on you from day 1.
You can get a copy of everything by writing to:
FAA Airman certification branch
AFS-760
PO Box 25082
Oklahoma City, OK 73125
Name, address, date and place of birth, cert number, and signature are required.
I'm writing an article that incorporates this info so I've been researching it quite a bit lately. The database is not completed yet. Once online, the airline will have access to everything including performance related issues from prior employers - or interestingly enough, internal standardization flights in part 91 departments if they indicate unsatisfactory performance. This is all covered by PRIA.
Thanks Stddevaiation! I had visited the link to the faa's site but didn't know it could have this much info.
I'm going to try and get a copy through a friend...because I always stopped short of ordering my copies due to money.
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Last edited by eman; 08-04-2014 at 08:41 AM. Reason: content
#2319
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: B756 FO
Posts: 1,288

Little to none in the next few years. They are trying to get the LGB airport authority to build a customs facility so we can add Mexico flying, but that's several years away. They are also trying to get LGB to allow E190s to use the regional slots at the airport. No clue if that will ever happen, but it's something on the table for discussion.
It will be 3+ years for a newhire to hold a line in LGB, so be comfortable with reserve life.
It will be 3+ years for a newhire to hold a line in LGB, so be comfortable with reserve life.
#2320
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,926

Same thing I'm thinking...wish I could remember if I got any pink slip that day. Better safe than sorry and I put an explanation on my app. Unfortunately the DPE didn't touch my logbook or add anything to the remark I entered. But since I have my checkrides tabbed, anyone can see there's 2 entries for "CFI checkride"
How big a deal is having this on an application? I'm an eternal optimist and accept reality...getting these interviews feels like playing the lottery!
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How big a deal is having this on an application? I'm an eternal optimist and accept reality...getting these interviews feels like playing the lottery!
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