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Old 11-07-2014, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dada9898 View Post
From what I understood it's based on age (birthdate) in your training class.
That's correct
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Old 11-07-2014, 03:14 PM
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I was told occasionally guys fail phase 2 because they find a skeleton in their closet they did not disclose - I.e. Trouble with the law, training failures, etc... Also, one of the last steps in phase 2 is the pilots review the applicant names, so let's say you had beef with several JB pilots, they could veto you.
From what I hear, most of the issues are failure to disclose things - even minor stuff. A private pilot checkride failure, speeding ticket, screw up as a teenager, etc, is not an issue if you disclose it, but if you don't - look out. Integrity is a really big deal here.

Also, - the names are posted for current JetBlue pilots to see and to provide input. My recruitment team bud says that internal negative feedback on phase 2 candidates is taken very seriously. If you've made enemies in the past - look out.

Moral of the story, disclose everything, and be nice to your fellow pilots
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NYBlue View Post
From what I hear, most of the issues are failure to disclose things - even minor stuff. A private pilot checkride failure, speeding ticket, screw up as a teenager, etc, is not an issue if you disclose it, but if you don't - look out. Integrity is a really big deal here.

Also, - the names are posted for current JetBlue pilots to see and to provide input. My recruitment team bud says that internal negative feedback on phase 2 candidates is taken very seriously. If you've made enemies in the past - look out.

Moral of the story, disclose everything, and be nice to your fellow pilots
Go back a few months and you'll see guys cut in phase 2 because of recency issues too.
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Old 11-08-2014, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Why would someone not get through phase 2?
Recency of experience. I was a Feb 25 interview. Phase 2 until mid May. Then told needed recency to get a class. Had to get hired and spend five months at a regional. Now have a class date.
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
Recency of experience. I was a Feb 25 interview. Phase 2 until mid May. Then told needed recency to get a class. Had to get hired and spend five months at a regional. Now have a class date.
Ouch. But nice to see they gave you a class when all caught up instead of a oops too bad
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Old 11-08-2014, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hurryage65 View Post
Ouch. But nice to see they gave you a class when all caught up instead of a oops too bad
Agreed! Core values at work
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:39 AM
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Shouldn't the 'core values' catch the fact that someone has recency issues BEFORE they come to interview?
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer View Post
Shouldn't the 'core values' catch the fact that someone has recency issues BEFORE they come to interview?
I believe this has been corrected now. There was a rash of this in the February group (recency eliminations downstream, especially for military pilots on staff duty or reduced flying in previous 12 months). In my case, since I had no failures, violations, background issues, etc. (9,200 TT, 1400 TPIC, prior 121, but presently instructor/evaluator at 142 school-hence the recency) I assumed I'd move through phase II no problem.

I had resigned that week from current employer because I had another flying job offer. Had to decline a class date on the new job. I was left essentially unemployed for three months but anticipated a B6 class end of May - as those that interviewed with me received. It was a gamble on my end and my fault for declining the other position. Come May the recency issue came up in phase II. As I indicated prior, I had to go to a regional for 5 months at first year, reserve pay to solve the recency "problem.". Financially it was a huge blow - was just south of six figures at instructor position.

Kudos to JB for keeping me in the pool; however, the recency issue was evident at the interview. I had two strong internal advocates and I'm sure that helped. It's all good now and although lighter in the wallet, I'm glad it worked out. Just wanted to provide some situational awareness on the recency issue - fly, fly, fly or it seems to be the kiss of death.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
I believe this has been corrected now. There was a rash of this in the February group (recency eliminations downstream, especially for military pilots on staff duty or reduced flying in previous 12 months). In my case, since I had no failures, violations, background issues, etc. (9,200 TT, 1400 TPIC, prior 121, but presently instructor/evaluator at 142 school-hence the recency) I assumed I'd move through phase II no problem.

I had resigned that week from current employer because I had another flying job offer. Had to decline a class date on the new job. I was left essentially unemployed for three months but anticipated a B6 class end of May - as those that interviewed with me received. It was a gamble on my end and my fault for declining the other position. Come May the recency issue came up in phase II. As I indicated prior, I had to go to a regional for 5 months at first year, reserve pay to solve the recency "problem.". Financially it was a huge blow - was just south of six figures at instructor position.

Kudos to JB for keeping me in the pool; however, the recency issue was evident at the interview. I had two strong internal advocates and I'm sure that helped. It's all good now and although lighter in the wallet, I'm glad it worked out. Just wanted to provide some situational awareness on the recency issue - fly, fly, fly or it seems to be the kiss of death.
I know that one all too well as I am a former 142 instructor my self. Glad they kept you in the pool.
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Old 11-09-2014, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Learflyer View Post
I know that one all too well as I am a former 142 instructor my self. Glad they kept you in the pool.
When you say "recency issues" what kind of flight hours/time are we talking about? Over the last 1 yr - 2 yrs - 3yrs - etc.?

I have 500 last 12 months - 88 in 2013 - 0 in 2012 -0 in 2011. ~3200 TT (all turbine). 1700 PIC.

Military IP flying the T-6B II Texan. Should I be concerned?
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