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Old 11-16-2013, 04:23 AM
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Also, if I calculated the pay raise correctly these are the new rates. If so, not too bad.

looks like the cut paste didn't work as well as I hoped. The columns are: current/2014/2015/2016.
A320
2014 2015 2016
1 $50.00 $50.00 $50.00 $50.00
2 $72.00 $81.36 $84.21 $87.15
3 $85.00 $96.05 $99.41 $102.89
4 $92.00 $103.96 $107.60 $111.36
5 $97.00 $109.61 $113.45 $117.42
6 $101.00 $114.13 $118.12 $122.26
7 $104.00 $117.52 $121.63 $125.89
8 $105.00 $118.65 $122.80 $127.10
9 $108.00 $122.04 $126.31 $130.73
10 $109.00 $123.17 $127.48 $131.94
11 $112.00 $126.56 $130.99 $135.57
12 $114.00 $128.82 $133.33 $138.00


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2014 2015 2016
1 $50.00 $50.00 $50.00 $50.00
2 $65.00 $73.45 $76.02 $78.68
3 $77.00 $87.01 $90.06 $93.21
4 $83.00 $93.79 $97.07 $100.47
5 $87.00 $98.31 $101.75 $105.31
6 $91.00 $102.83 $106.43 $110.15
7 $93.00 $105.09 $108.77 $112.58
8 $95.00 $107.35 $111.11 $115.00
9 $97.00 $109.61 $113.45 $117.42
10 $98.00 $110.74 $114.62 $118.63
11 $101.00 $114.13 $118.12 $122.26
12 $102.00 $115.26 $119.29 $123.47
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:13 AM
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Did they actually cut the hourly rate for first year, or are you saying first year dudes are getting a pay cut because flying over 78 hrs with no premium?

It'd be a paycut for a year 1 guy only if they are line holding above 78 or are getting used extensively on RSV to break guarantee.

Otherwise it's a zero sum game.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:20 AM
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I am a year one guy who holds a line. So until my second year pay kicks in this is flat out a pay cut .....
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I am a year one guy who holds a line. So until my second year pay kicks in this is flat out a pay cut .....
How many hours are you flying?
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:28 AM
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I was only on reserve for 5 months. The remainder I've credited over 80 hours each month. This month I have over 100. So it would be a pay cut for me, and likely everyone in my new hire class. We will all be on second year pay by the time this new PEA kicks in though.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by WARich View Post
How many hours are you flying?


Doesn't matter. Every hour over 78 is worth 33% less if he signs. If he doesn't sign, he loses out on a raise for 2ndyr-4thyr.

It's a kick in the teeth for newbs.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
Doesn't matter. Every hour over 78 is worth 33% less if he signs. If he doesn't sign, he loses out on a raise for 2ndyr-4thyr.

It's a kick in the teeth for newbs.
I don't disagree, I was just curious how many hrs the typical first year line holder flies.
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Old 11-16-2013, 05:36 AM
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LoL, as much as he can to pay the bills!

I don't know what this round of new guys are able to pick up. The door slammed shut on my class, we were on RSV for long time!

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Doesn't matter. Every hour over 78 is worth 33% less if he signs. If he doesn't sign, he loses out on a raise for 2ndyr-4thyr.

It's a kick in the teeth for newbs.
And the company's reasoning for this is because people are suing the company for something that happened well before I was here. The whole PEA situation is BS. I will most likely sign because it will be a raise for me while we vote in a union...
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:37 AM
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All us newhires got an email from Sandy saying the lack of a raise in 1st year pay was due to the 3A claim. Not smart enough to understand what that all means, beyond ~$1000 - $3000 less in 2014 if I sign (assuming an 81-85hr/mo sched), and no raise the following two years if I don't sign.
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