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Old 12-24-2016, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT View Post
So you're saying blewjet is made up of rejects who couldn't get a job at the "competivate" airlines? This is a fallback place? That's exactly right, it is, and management treats us just as much. You proved my point, sometimes you have to work a little harder to get to a better pasture, this one isn't it.
Was it a fallback place and full of rejects when you applied, interviewed and accepted the job? I guess just a few years ago right?

Look I get what you guys are saying but how about we not call our own pilots a bunch of rejects.

I hope you can get to a real airline that deserves your talent it's obviously wasted here at "blue jet"

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Old 12-24-2016, 11:37 AM
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I'm curious, after you got here and realized how bad it is where did you move off to?
Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
Was it a fallback place and full of rejects when you applied, interviewed and accepted the job? I guess just a few years ago right?

Look I get what you guys are saying but how about we not call our own pilots a bunch of rejects.

I hope you can get to a real airline that deserves your talent it's obviously wasted here at "blue jet"
Listen, it's cute you guys want to be Jetblue cheerleaders but right now is not the time. Take off your skirt, drop the blue pom pom and listen. We need a spined pilot group who's willing to throw on a jacket, grab a sign, I let the travelers know we are one of the most underpaid majors. Blowing pixie dust about how wonderful this place is is a far cry from the truth. At the time I was hired we were within throwing distance of our peers, today, not even in the same ballpark. It's guys like you, the, "I love my job at Jetblue! Where's the blue gloves? I love this culture! Drop the brake early and help the gate agent. Let me help you with that bag! Look at me, I'm making a PA in front of everyone! Don't you love my jokes..." BS that's dragging, DRAGGING, us down.

Let me ask you this, the very people who have these leading contracts, what do they do different? If I have to answer for you then it's all a lost cause.

This airline targets juicers willing to single handely remove each vertabrea of our non-existent spine.

Wear your lanyard, stop blowing pixie dust and stop dreaming about unicorns. Let's tell the true story, this place needs help. We need better management, we need professionalism, we need a CBA!

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Old 12-24-2016, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT View Post
I second this! Guys come here, realize, and turn right around. Unless, that is, you like unicorns, blue latext gloves, envy your trash man, love working for peanuts or just like saying "it's better than my regional!"
Hell, my regional had better work rules and management. The only improvement here was the hourly pay, but it's still way short of what we deserve.

I'm giving my NC just a little more time to wrap up a deal before I throw in the towel and head for greener pa$ture$.

Prospective applicants: This place isn't what JB wants you to think it is.
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Old 12-24-2016, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT View Post
Listen, it's cute you guys want to be Jetblue cheerleaders but right now is not the time. Take off your skirt, drop the blue pom pom and listen. We need a spined pilot group who's willing to throw on a jacket, grab a sign, I let the travelers know we are one of the most underpaid majors. Blowing pixie dust about how wonderful this place is is a far cry from the truth. At the time I was hired we were within throwing distance of our peers, today, not even in the same ballpark. It's guys like you, the, "I love my job at Jetblue! Where's the blue gloves? I love this culture! Drop the brake early and help the gate agent. Let me help you with that bag! Look at me, I'm making a PA in front of everyone! Don't you love my jokes..." BS that's dragging, DRAGGING, us down.

Let me ask you this, the very people who have these leading contracts, what do they do different? If I have to answer for you then it's all a lost cause.

This airline targets juicers willing to single handely remove each vertabrea of our non-existent spine.

Wear your lanyard, stop blowing pixie dust and stop dreaming about unicorns. Let's tell the true story, this place needs help. We need better management, we need professionalism, we need a CBA!

/rant


You're making a lot of assumptions. You don't have to be miserable to want a good CBA and support ALPA. If that works for you, great. But don't tell those of us who aren't miserable how to behave or act. We are on the same team, even if we don't express it the same way you do. I can do a stand up PA and yet still support ALPA and want a good CBA. I will NEVER tell you to do a stand up PA, but I sure expect the same courtesy from you if I do decide to do one.

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Old 12-24-2016, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Southerner View Post
You're making a lot of assumptions. You don't have to be miserable to want a good CBA and support ALPA. If that works for you, great. But don't tell those of us who aren't miserable how to behave or act. We are on the same team, even if we don't express it the same way you do. I can do a stand up PA and yet still support ALPA and want a good CBA. I will NEVER tell you to do a stand up PA, but I sure expect the same courtesy from you if I do decide to do one.

I short, you do you.
In short, all is well on the plantation! The pilots are content since they're still doing stand ups and dumpster diving. No need to ink a CBA anytime soon!
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Old 12-24-2016, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
In short, all is well on the plantation! The pilots are content since they're still doing stand ups and dumpster diving. No need to ink a CBA anytime soon!


It's funny that you think that's how it works. I do my job. ALPA speaks for me. I let them do their jobs. I've spoken to the NC guys, and I trust them.
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Old 12-24-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by atrdriver View Post
In short, all is well on the plantation! The pilots are content since they're still doing stand ups and dumpster diving. No need to ink a CBA anytime soon!
True enough. Too many willing indentured servants here at "we're not Delta" - I mean Jetblue
And stop the BLUE GLOVE post flight !!
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
I'm just saying it's not easy to get hired at a Legacy when a good chunk comes from flows/pref interviews. Then you have military and gender/minority hires...
Are the military members, females, and minorities not qualified?
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Old 12-24-2016, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj View Post
Are the military members, females, and minorities not qualified?
That wasn't my point. Just saying that leaving here for a Legacy isn't that easy if you're strictly civilian when you look at where the hiring is coming from(flows, Pref Interviews). I know plenty of people, as I'm sure everyone does, with great resumes not getting a call. Maybe in a few years if the flood gates open up. But to answer your question, there's competitive applicants from all spectrums. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Old 12-24-2016, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj View Post
Are the military members, females, and minorities not qualified?
It's not a matter of not being qualified...I don't think that's his point. It's about preferential hiring for those demographics. Min qualifications are basically ATP mins. I think most anyone applying for these jobs is "qualified."
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