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Old 12-09-2020, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
target pilots is 400 less than what we have now
That's because the 400 pilot T5 potato farm supplemental bid isn't out yet. Comes out mid-January.
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Old 12-09-2020, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
target pilots is 400 less than what we have now

Post #10,000...congrats.

Not sure if this is a reliable indicator of how overstaffed we are. I think they just wanted to prevent backfills. How many planes we have parked multiplied by about 15, would probably give you a good idea. 59 planes multiplied by 15 pilots/plane, just shy of 900 pilots as of today.

Hopefully that AA codeshare ends up getting approved and works. I think the initial email said thatíll allow them to remove over 30 airplanes that are parked. Although Iíve heard some guys say that in recurrent theyíre hearing the codeshare will require every plane out of storage.
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Old 12-09-2020, 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
Post #10,000...congrats.

Not sure if this is a reliable indicator of how overstaffed we are. I think they just wanted to prevent backfills. How many planes we have parked multiplied by about 15, would probably give you a good idea. 59 planes multiplied by 15 pilots/plane, just shy of 900 pilots as of today.

Hopefully that AA codeshare ends up getting approved and works. I think the initial email said thatíll allow them to remove over 30 airplanes that are parked. Although Iíve heard some guys say that in recurrent theyíre hearing the codeshare will require every plane out of storage.
honestly I thought that too. But I figured if they wanted to keep back fills it would have been -50 in all. That just my thought. I hope we are only fat 400 pilots I was thinking more like 700-900
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Old 12-09-2020, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
target pilots is 400 less than what we have now
12/2021 it's ~150
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Old 12-09-2020, 06:03 AM
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target pilots is 400 less than what we have now

Are you counting inactive pilots?


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Old 12-09-2020, 07:35 AM
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There are more details that need to be ironed out and approved, but the AA codeshare will change the outlook dramatically. Who knows how long that could take though.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Whica Flore View Post
Are you counting inactive pilots?


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Im just counting target pilots. Not sure if thatís right or wrong. But 400 sounds about right for the given situation.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
Im just counting target pilots. Not sure if thatís right or wrong. But 400 sounds about right for the given situation.
I believe target pilots donít include the inactive/offline pilots (of which there are 298) whose bids donít go against any bid numbers. They are essentially ghost bids in the system. So what we need to do is look at target pilots vs current active pilots, which makes the numbers show being about 100 fat. But, that doesnít really mean anythingóthey just made the numbers the way they did to try to minimize people moving around and generating training events by minimizing backfill availability.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:46 AM
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I believe target pilots donít include the inactive/offline pilots (of which there are 298) whose bids donít go against any bid numbers. They are essentially ghost bids in the system. So what we need to do is look at target pilots vs current active pilots, which makes the numbers show being about 100 fat. But, that doesnít really mean anythingóthey just made the numbers the way they did to try to minimize people moving around and generating training events by minimizing backfill availability.
understood. But what if those guys just come back? Iím assuming the company needs to account for that? Why not just put -50 in each category? I think there is a few single digits in there that would potentially cause a backfill, obviously not a large amount like before but still there is going to be some back fill. (Could be totally wrong)
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
Im just counting target pilots. Not sure if thatís right or wrong. But 400 sounds about right for the given situation.

You have to plan / staff for inactive pilots. Otherwise you will be understaffed (in normal circumstances). Active vs Target is the true picture


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