pilotpayne

Over on bluepilots it is

Ted Striker

I heard they wanted a bit more than our best offer, held firm and we backed away. Obviously heard this from a guy who knows a guy, yada yada yada...

aldonite7667

Somethings happening. JB is cheaping out all over the system. It's Been pretty evident for a while that they are saving cash for something.

hyperboy

Yea go to MCO circumvent seniority and pick up trips in a base your not even being close to be be able to hold seniority wise......

GuppyPuppy

See, things ARE getting better!

Gup

Southerner

1. The pilots in MCO love to get their trips bought.
2. The instructors don't get paid extra for flying those trips. It's included in their work days.
3. Some instructors fly trips in JFK/BOS, and many turns in MCO are actually JFK/BOS pairings.
4. Instructors cannot pick up straight open time. The only way instructors get paid captain pay is to fly RSA or VDA.

The instructor gig is completely different than being a line pilot. Both have their advantages/disadvantages.

RiddleEagle18

You guys are the biggest RSA VDA "helpers" in the entire system.

You should not be allowed do those. If you want to be an instructor stay in the school house and pick up overtime in there. MCO would probably have to grow by 10% if instructors weren't able to pick up VDA and RSA.

Now don't get me wrong I'm a huge proponent of having line pilots as instructors but it needs to be something like 2 months in the school house and 1 month back on the line in the base and seat you actually hold.



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aewanabe

Back in late 2010 they did large scale interviews to drastically expand the adjunct instructor job with the idea of doing something very similar to exactly that. We received a detailed email from JBU leadership about training feedback and the need for most instruction to be provided by line pilots, the idea being that the quality of instruction would be raised by guys with more JetBlue experience and less "full-time schoolhouse" mentality.

IIRC correctly the plan was to pay 90 hours/month plus hotel and per diem for non-MCO based guys, who would teach during the slow months and fly their AWARDED BASE AND SEAT (emphasis mine) during busier months.

After the interviews and conditional offers, there was suddenly a month of "crickets" from JBU leadership, then a quiet notification that the new management had decided to drastically scale back the adjunct program in favor of hiring NSL instructors off the street.

Southerner

Who knows what the CBA will have for the instructors. I'm a fan of 2 months instructing, one month flying the line. Some like that, some don't.

Like I said, the reason instructors do RSA/VDA is that's the only way to get paid captain pay, if they are captains.

RiddleEagle18

Or they could go fly their actual seniority if they want captain pay.

Thus the original comment(and I can't believe I'm agreeing with hyperboy) about the circumvention of seniority.

They made a choice to be In the school house and take that "paper bid upgrade". So either stay in the school house with no VDA,RSA or be a senior FO in MCO or go be a junior CA were you can hold it, but being able to circumvent seniority is what people have a problem with!


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