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05-07-2017, 03:42 PM
#3381
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 320 FO
Posts: 143
Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I don't think he's lost perspective. I think he's frustrate and that's exacerbated by people that say things like "well if you we're a pipe layer or a coal miner you'd be making $45k a year... you should feel lucky".
Entitlement comes from those who haven't earned anything. We've worked hard. Put in time. Sucked it up. Done the hard things. We are entitled to better.
Even though his delivery is harsh. It's on point.
Entitlement comes from those who haven't earned anything. We've worked hard. Put in time. Sucked it up. Done the hard things. We are entitled to better.
Even though his delivery is harsh. It's on point.
My point was, we still make more money than a lot of people in the general population. And to that effect, we should be able to afford a $15 meal and have our hotel have better locations and quality, rather than an emphasis on locations where you can get a bunch of cheap garbage junk food which some people seem to prefer.
Last edited by Cloud5urfer; 05-07-2017 at 04:12 PM.
05-07-2017, 03:43 PM
#3382
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
Rode in 190 js the other week. Captain wasn't wearing an ALPA lanyard and did his welcome announcement from the galley. FO tells me "he's a typical Boston juicer".
So let me get this straight. JB's overall compensation package is like 40% below industry standard and there is a decently large subset of the pilot group that is content with the way things are going?
Things aren't perfect at SWA - but damn. Guys like that would get a blanket party from where I'm from.
So let me get this straight. JB's overall compensation package is like 40% below industry standard and there is a decently large subset of the pilot group that is content with the way things are going?
Things aren't perfect at SWA - but damn. Guys like that would get a blanket party from where I'm from.
I don't know what it is about BOS. It is like a cult up there.
05-07-2017, 05:30 PM
#3383
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by atrdriver
Wow, that escalated quickly from "you're paid enough to afford a decent meal, so we shouldn't accept these crappy hotels or crappy locations with cheap food nearby" to "you should be lucky to make as much as you do, even if you are compensated 30-40% less than your buddy doing the same job."
Wow. I've got no words. Pathetic. So pathetic.
Just read the past two pages to understand why so many guys want to get the **** out of this place. If you're not depressed and angered by your paycheck, you will be by fellow pilots who rationalize all this BS.
Wow. I've got no words. Pathetic. So pathetic.
Just read the past two pages to understand why so many guys want to get the **** out of this place. If you're not depressed and angered by your paycheck, you will be by fellow pilots who rationalize all this BS.
05-08-2017, 10:58 AM
#3385
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
To all the people *****ing about people picking up open time. Take note of what is happening at Spirit, their union is being sued for an illegal job action. Because apparently you are required to go to work and pick up opentime in this so called free country. They will look at these forums if $hit hits the fan.
05-08-2017, 12:30 PM
#3386
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,210
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
To all the people *****ing about people picking up open time. Take note of what is happening at Spirit, their union is being sued for an illegal job action. Because apparently you are required to go to work and pick up opentime in this so called free country. They will look at these forums if $hit hits the fan.
05-08-2017, 01:38 PM
#3387
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Originally Posted by Softpayman
So that's it? The company is suing the pilots because they're not picking up enough open time? That's your understanding of things?
05-08-2017, 02:00 PM
#3388
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Originally Posted by Softpayman
So that's it? The company is suing the pilots because they're not picking up enough open time? That's your understanding of things?
05-08-2017, 02:38 PM
#3389
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,210
Originally Posted by Xtreme87
That's what it sounds like. Yes. "Illegal job action."
The issue is when the union or group aggressively employs tactics to prevent others from doing things that are permitted in the contract. In this case setting up a website that pressures/intimidates pilots into not picking up open time.
05-08-2017, 03:20 PM
#3390
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by Softpayman
In this case setting up a website that pressures/intimidates pilots into not picking up open time.
No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
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