Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > JetBlue
JetBlue Latest and Greatest >

JetBlue Latest and Greatest


Notices

JetBlue Latest and Greatest

Old 05-07-2017, 03:42 PM
  #3381  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Cloud5urfer's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 320 FO
Posts: 143
Default

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
I don't think he's lost perspective. I think he's frustrate and that's exacerbated by people that say things like "well if you we're a pipe layer or a coal miner you'd be making $45k a year... you should feel lucky".

Entitlement comes from those who haven't earned anything. We've worked hard. Put in time. Sucked it up. Done the hard things. We are entitled to better.

Even though his delivery is harsh. It's on point.
Jesus guys my comment got taken way out of context. As I said, we are paid less than our peers and that needs to change. I spent $100,000 and made many personal / family sacrifices to get here just like many of you have.

My point was, we still make more money than a lot of people in the general population. And to that effect, we should be able to afford a $15 meal and have our hotel have better locations and quality, rather than an emphasis on locations where you can get a bunch of cheap garbage junk food which some people seem to prefer.

Last edited by Cloud5urfer; 05-07-2017 at 04:12 PM.
Cloud5urfer is offline  
Old 05-07-2017, 03:43 PM
  #3382  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Default

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFO
Rode in 190 js the other week. Captain wasn't wearing an ALPA lanyard and did his welcome announcement from the galley. FO tells me "he's a typical Boston juicer".

So let me get this straight. JB's overall compensation package is like 40% below industry standard and there is a decently large subset of the pilot group that is content with the way things are going?

Things aren't perfect at SWA - but damn. Guys like that would get a blanket party from where I'm from.

I don't know what it is about BOS. It is like a cult up there.
PasserOGas is offline  
Old 05-07-2017, 05:30 PM
  #3383  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Bozo the pilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Default

Originally Posted by atrdriver
Wow, that escalated quickly from "you're paid enough to afford a decent meal, so we shouldn't accept these crappy hotels or crappy locations with cheap food nearby" to "you should be lucky to make as much as you do, even if you are compensated 30-40% less than your buddy doing the same job."

Wow. I've got no words. Pathetic. So pathetic.

Just read the past two pages to understand why so many guys want to get the **** out of this place. If you're not depressed and angered by your paycheck, you will be by fellow pilots who rationalize all this BS.
On the money.
Bozo the pilot is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 07:31 AM
  #3384  
Gets Weekends Off
 
GuppyPuppy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
Default

Originally Posted by PasserOGas
I don't know what it is about BOS. It is like a cult up there.
Yeah, it's a cult.

Now LSC.....that's a cult.

Gup
GuppyPuppy is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 10:58 AM
  #3385  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Default

To all the people *****ing about people picking up open time. Take note of what is happening at Spirit, their union is being sued for an illegal job action. Because apparently you are required to go to work and pick up opentime in this so called free country. They will look at these forums if $hit hits the fan.
Xtreme87 is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 12:30 PM
  #3386  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,218
Default

Originally Posted by Xtreme87
To all the people *****ing about people picking up open time. Take note of what is happening at Spirit, their union is being sued for an illegal job action. Because apparently you are required to go to work and pick up opentime in this so called free country. They will look at these forums if $hit hits the fan.
So that's it? The company is suing the pilots because they're not picking up enough open time? That's your understanding of things?
Softpayman is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 01:38 PM
  #3387  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Default

Originally Posted by Softpayman
So that's it? The company is suing the pilots because they're not picking up enough open time? That's your understanding of things?
That's what it sounds like. Yes. "Illegal job action."
Xtreme87 is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 02:00 PM
  #3388  
Gets Weekends Off
 
tomgoodman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Default

Originally Posted by Softpayman
So that's it? The company is suing the pilots because they're not picking up enough open time? That's your understanding of things?
In similar situations at other companies, the complaint was not about any pilot's individual choice, but about the pressuring of other pilots not to pick up time. Some unwise internet postings and e-mails were used as evidence. There may be a lesson here....
tomgoodman is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 02:38 PM
  #3389  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: CA
Posts: 1,218
Default

Originally Posted by Xtreme87
That's what it sounds like. Yes. "Illegal job action."
The issue at hand isn't individual pilots deciding on their own not to fly.

The issue is when the union or group aggressively employs tactics to prevent others from doing things that are permitted in the contract. In this case setting up a website that pressures/intimidates pilots into not picking up open time.
Softpayman is offline  
Old 05-08-2017, 03:20 PM
  #3390  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Default

Originally Posted by Softpayman
In this case setting up a website that pressures/intimidates pilots into not picking up open time.
Cool. So we don't do that. I have a first amendment right to advocate against helping the company while they violate status quo left and right.

No one is being intimidated just being told by a few of us on here that helping staff the airline isn't helping us in negotiations. Its the truth. Do with that truth what you will. Sounds like Spirit has some pilots who get it.
PasserOGas is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Zoomie
Major
36
01-28-2015 11:44 AM
iahflyr
Major
27
09-30-2014 09:04 AM
Mason32
Regional
270
07-27-2010 06:01 PM
Scott34567
Regional
39
05-29-2008 07:08 PM
Sir James
Major
0
07-29-2005 07:02 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices