Combatcraig

Total joke. An insulting joke! This company is as greedy and disingenuous as any company out there. “Culture”? Gimme a effing break! I’m completely disgusted with this place and those that “lead it”!

coopervane

Yep....me too....

The writing is REALLY becoming clearer on the wall. I feel like a Comair guy that ignored the writing until it was too late.

I have been in a labor dispute since 2005, and I’m tired of it.
I want to work for a company that at least PRETENDS to recognize our contribution. I was a bean to be counted and managed at my last airline. Same here evidently.

Maybe it’s time to try harder to leave. So far I’ve been passively trying but cautiously optimistic. Last year I lost all my enthusiasm......this year I’ve lost all of my optimism.

Good job JETBLUE.......way to run a quality operation.

Bluedriver

Come on, they only made a BILLION dollars in profit!

feltf4

But they gave us $1,000 taxable dollars from their tax break.... you know..... so the government can get back 25% of that.

seekingblue

Where's STD Deviation?

I'm excited to hear why we are making to much money, and how we are lucky we are to get the 1.9% profit sharing.

coopervane

He is not a juicer. He has had a lot more aviation experience than most here and I usually find his posts reasonable and well thought out.

He fought long and hard to get here. Harder than average, but he’s no juicer.

Bluedriver

I thought they were supposed to set aside 10% of pretax profits for the profit sharing pool? That would be over 100 million correct???

Did they just unilaterally change the formula, again!?!?

Std Deviation

Been out with the flu...
I NEVER said we make too much money. I’m merely a student of human behavior. I pontificate on my observations. I don’t see a group of doctors at Baylor shouting that the docs at Parkland make more. A group of accountants at Deloitte squawking that those dogs over at Ernst and Young are getting bigger profit sharing. Different companies. Apples to Oranges. Like JB and Delta. How many pilots does Delta have again? Aircraft? It seems everyone hired here prior to 3 years ago willingly came to work for a non union carrier, no?

I find the concept “industry average” laughable. Unless you’re a socialist. Do our flight attendants, rampers, and dispatchers get industry average? How about our CEO? Does he get it? Okay, so only the pilots should get it? Because we pay “industry average” for gates and fuel. Uh, okay.

I said we’re going to end up right in the middle. Between “industry average” and where we are now. I asked if we’re willing to burn the house down for $20K.

I’m a reasonable middle of the road guy that’s actually signed the front of a paycheck and not the back.

So let me paraphrase, “we want more money because the guys over there get more money even though our companies are totally different and we were fully cognizant of the pay at the time but damn my Delta neighbor got a new boat with his profit sharing so I want what he has.”

So welfare then? We want a handout? Have this conversation with someone outside of aviation and watch their head explode.

Again, NEVER EVER Said we were overpaid.

Not a Glover or a juicer. Watching the rhetoric on both sides and along for the ride.

Final Clear

How many pilots Delta has and what type of airplanes they fly is immaterial. I don't care what the doctors at Baylor or Parkland make, I'm not a doctor. I don't care what the accountants at Deloitte or Ernst and Young make, I'm not an accountant. I want my slice of the Jetblue revenue pie and federal law allows us to do so. Don't obfuscate the issue.

Your misrepresenting the argument laid forth by JBALPA. Jetblue has to negotiate with vendors for fuel, gates, aircraft, etc. Federal law allows us to negotiate with the company for our piece of the Jetblue revenue pie as well. That's not "socialism", that's capitalism.

I can't speak for other Jetblue pilots, but yes I absolutely am. This company has "stolen" hundreds of thousands of dollars from my family thru 3A and other business "efficiencies" that they have unilaterally imposed on us. And no, they didn't disclose to me in the interview, that I willingly applied for, that Jetblue had no intention of managing with INTEGRITY. They only told me that I had to demonstrate INTEGRITY...should have know that was a one-way street.

You sound like reasonable middle management at Jetblue. Glad you had the opportunity to sign the front of the check, I could ****ing care less. My message....FUPM.

Same bull**** arguments made during the drive and you guys are going to get the same result. We want to negotiate a fair labor contract that befits our status as front-line managers for Jetblue with a highly specific and technical skill-set that is in high-demand across the globe. When the cost of fuel goes up because airlines want more of it, Jetblue has to pay more for fuel. I want my piece of the Jetblue revenue pie and you know what...it's gonna cost more. FUPM.

Don't want a handout. I want a proper and fairly negotiated contract that compensates me for the revenue production that I generate when I fly Jetblue passengers safely and comfortably. If you can't comprehend this viewpoint, too bad...FUPM.

Chicken Taco

I also need some help with that. I read the pretax profit as $921mm, which would make the pool $92mm. Still only 55% of last year's pool, but a lot more than the $34mm that was mentioned in the release..