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Old 04-11-2018, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
1. Your posts read like they were written by a 13 year old girl.

2. How do you think DL and UAL pilots would vote on a CBA if it left them beholden to a company policy that required them to clean airplanes?

Keep your Cult.
Lol, bro

1. It’s out of the unions control.

2. It’s out of the unions control.

3. It’s still out of the unions control. Came right from the NC mouth.

4. Since I’m 13, I’m going to be able to retire early mad early bro.

5. I pay my dues. I wear my cute necklace. And I support the union.

6. I’m a teenager, yet you’re crying wolf about cleaning?

7. Enjoy flying on Skywest metal dba Jetblue Airways, because you voted no and gave up scope for not having to clean

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Old 04-11-2018, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
Lol, bro

1. It’s out of the unions control.

2. It’s out of the unions control.

3. It’s still out of the unions control. Came right from the NC mouth.

4. Since I’m 13, I’m going to be able to retire early mad early bro.

5. I pay my dues. I wear my cute necklace. And I support the union.
Hope you can retire "early mad early" bro.

Sun Country company policy was to NEVER allow off-line jumpseaters in empty first class seats.

Their negotiating committee got jumpseaters in first class seats included in their CBA negotiations. Don't tell me it CAN'T be done.

Now, the company may flat-out refuse to even discuss it, but that's a symptom of our Cult, and maybe our MEC hasn't made it a "high" priority, but it COULD be addressed.

I'm with BJDork, our Cult may never allow it to be changed without it going all the to a strike. But really it should be Bunker answering to this debate since he suggested it would be fixed in his JB pumping pitch.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
Lol, breaking news bro.

“You above all”

Here’s a bright idea, don’t commute? Or buy a ticket?

Oh, but I bet you have some excuse that you cannot move to a base. Your choice big boy. But enjoy voting down the contract because you have to wait until everyone gets off and clean one seat. Your part time job is terrible huh? Good to know that your going to show your loyalty and support for the NC and union by voting down a contract over cleaning a seat or two. We really do not have a bright pilot group.
No matter what I don't clean.... it's really simple.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
Hope you can retire "early mad early" bro.

Sun Country company policy was to NEVER allow off-line jumpseaters in empty first class seats.

Their negotiating committee got jumpseaters in first class seats included in their CBA negotiations. Don't tell me it CAN'T be done.

Now, the company may flat-out refuse to even discuss it, but that's a symptom of our Cult, and maybe our MEC hasn't made it a "high" priority, but it COULD be addressed.

I'm with BJDork, our Cult may never allow it to be changed without it going all the to a strike. But really it should be Bunker answering to this debate since he suggested it would be fixed in his JB pumping pitch.
Email your NC bud. They will explain. Let me know what you come up with. I asked this question exactly one week ago. But hey your a big mature adult who knows more than me. My mom just finished making my grilled cheese. G2G
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
No matter what I don't clean.... it's really simple.
Right on. I don’t either I never will. I’m last on. First off. That being said, I’m not going to vote no because the cleaning section of the contract wasn’t added to say, “pilots shall never clean”. Some of you boys are in space.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:14 PM
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[QUOTE=queue;2569389]The only correct response is: You can negotiate or change anything except for the laws of physics. Even human law is an entirely artificial construct.

Q you really love aphorisms.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
Hope you can retire "early mad early" bro.

Sun Country company policy was to NEVER allow off-line jumpseaters in empty first class seats.

Their negotiating committee got jumpseaters in first class seats included in their CBA negotiations. Don't tell me it CAN'T be done.

Now, the company may flat-out refuse to even discuss it, but that's a symptom of our Cult, and maybe our MEC hasn't made it a "high" priority, but it COULD be addressed.

I'm with BJDork, our Cult may never allow it to be changed without it going all the to a strike. But really it should be Bunker answering to this debate since he suggested it would be fixed in his JB pumping pitch.

You guys are starting to scare me.(not you BD)
I highly doubt there will be a carve out about pilots commuting not having to clean. That will never happen under the current policy.
The only way that changes is of the FAs unionize and do away with cleaning as part of their far off contract forcing the company to hire cleaners. Maybe yes maybe no but that’s the only way I see it ever going away.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne View Post
I highly doubt there will be a carve out about pilots commuting not having to clean. That will never happen under the current policy.
Bold prediction!
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:24 PM
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Why is no one on here talking about our new VP of flight ops? Please discuss. Thanks.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
Right on. I don’t either I never will. I’m last on. First off. That being said, I’m not going to vote no because the cleaning section of the contract wasn’t added to say, “pilots shall never clean”. Some of you boys are in space.
I will be the first to vote NO if the contract can't even manage to include "pilots shall never clean".

Raise your standards. Don't be such a defeatist that you will accept any sloppy seconds. If they can't even get rid of cleaning, then what else are they skimping on? I DEMAND an industry standard raising contract or I vote NO. Plain and simple. There is nothing stopping us from getting what we want. I won't settle for false arguments, false choices, or threats. If we can't even get a "no cleaning" clause when the industry is at historical highs, then we won't be able to get anything in the future.






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