queue

I make my point, especially when they don't respond.

They obviously have to hide from the truth, otherwise they wouldn't have to be running away from providing an answer.

All these guys preaching only Rules and not RULES & PAY are being self serving at the expense of others. And/or they just don't know better and therefore they won't think about the total cost of ownership. The truth is that with the AIP rates, most people will have to work their tails off for a trivial increase in pay.

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blueballs

You stopped making your point awhile ago and have lost all credibility as you are not on the jblu seniority list

CaptCoolHand

Confusing lack of response with agreement. What’s the word for that?

And please stop quoting him. It defeats the purpose of the block.

PasserOGas

I still do not understand why you guys keep saying this. Can you point to a post where this was established?

PasserOGas

I agree. I just wish you would stop using war references and right wing talking points in some of your posts. It hurts your argument.

Bozo the pilot

Why do you torture yourself Pass?
Can you not see whats up here?
Your opinion is valid and based on your experiences, while this other guy has an agenda and is recruiting.
Dont correct his arguments- If yours is based in fact WHEN the full TA is released, then that should suffice.
Being a NO vote before release of the full TA is premature at best.
Most of us will listen to your perspective once the full value of the TA is compared directly to the full value of the other CBAs.
Fair enough?

queue

Why? We need more pilots who are willing to fight for their profession in spirit and mind. Part of the problem with this pilot group is they are too accustomed to just being cogs in the machine rather than being the brains, even if at least partly so. All the talking in the world makes no difference unless you have people who are motivated enough to actually fight. Look at how big a deal it is for people just to stand outside a building. Fanatics do that at gladiatorial events! In fact, they even camp out for 30 days (hockey lines) or days before (iphone launches, movies). So the level of effort is barely up there with couch potatoes because BJ pilots are so defeated, they don't even feel it. We need a sustained effort that makes it too politically costly for them to fight us. If we did our job as fighters, BJ wouldn't dare take 3 years. Our failure is our fault for being sheep on the dinner table.

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queue

They just want to de-anonymize me. They've already threatened to attack my jumpseat ability. Not to mention, being critical of BJ online is a fireable activity if you identify as a BJ employee. They just want to silence their opposition since they can't win on merit alone.

Ever notice how their basic points are just to settle for less? Who would want that outcome? F&H, company management?

For these guys, PAY & BENEFITS is so bad, so dangerous an idea... that it requires censorship. Remember, you guys with accounts aren't the only ones here.

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queue

Only in your opinion! You are one of thousands.

Interesting how Ideas are so dangerous to some people.

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MGMTiswatchingU

All that is being asked of this group is to be knowledgeable of all corners of the pending TA before voting. If you still feel the need to vote NO then by all means, if you want to vote YES then by all means. It's not that difficult. The arguments of the AIP was great but it is now tiring, THE HORSE IS DEAD, now can we wait for the TA? This way we can start a valid debate based on COMPLETE FACTS. I think that would have more purpose than this stupid back and forth bickering towards each other that has now become very repetitive.

WE HAVE HEARD IT ALL. JBLU APC FORUM IS NOW AT AN IMPASSE. 30 day cool down plz. For Fock Sake.


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