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Old 06-23-2018, 03:33 AM
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SWA, DAL.....well pretty much everyone already has a CBA. This is exactly my point. WE DONT HAVE $H/T. When the company burns me on some nonsense I’ve got nothing in my pocket to flip through to show them they’re wrong. All I have a FSM written by and for THEM. I should should just accept my extension and pray I don’t have a mishap. Tomorrow, maybe I can pick up an RSA.

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
SWA, DAL.....well pretty much everyone already has a CBA. This is exactly my point. WE DONT HAVE $H/T. When the company burns me on some nonsense I’ve got nothing in my pocket to flip through to show them they’re wrong. All I have a FSM written by and for THEM. I should should just accept my extension and pray I don’t have a mishap. Tomorrow, maybe I can pick up an RSA.

-Bubs
Why would you accept an extension if you’re worried about mishaps? Politely decline the extension. Fill out the fcir explain that you timed out and could no longer operate safely presumably due to fatigue because you timed out. Go home or to hotel. The only way you dont get paid is if it wasn’t operationally induced which I can not imagine a case where you timed out that it wasn’t.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:31 AM
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Why would you accept an extension if you’re worried about mishaps? Politely decline the extension. Fill out the fcir explain that you timed out and could no longer operate safely presumably due to fatigue because you timed out. Go home or to hotel. The only way you dont get paid is if it wasn’t operationally induced which I can not imagine a case where you timed out that it wasn’t.
I think that was a bit of sarcasm in his post.
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Old 06-23-2018, 08:18 AM
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I think that was a bit of sarcasm in his post.
It wasn't.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:05 AM
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It was. I don’t extend. I sit on my helping hands. Until I have rules to live by.

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Old 06-23-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
It was. I don’t extend. I sit on my helping hands. Until I have rules to live by.

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Roger that. Missed it.
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Old 06-23-2018, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
It was. I don’t extend. I sit on my helping hands. Until I have rules to live by.

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mybad.

I know we've seen it here before those who will extend, not call fatigue, or even fly sick for whatever reasons....I should have known better bubs
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Old 06-23-2018, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork View Post
Probably because they want some sort of credit for their lost pensions.

The nerve!
Yea- it doesnt work that way. Unless you live in Fantasy Land
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:53 PM
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Yea- it doesnt work that way. Unless you live in Fantasy Land
Or you are willing to fight for what you are owed and they can afford it.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas View Post
Or you are willing to fight for what you are owed and they can afford it.
Are you willing to fight pog?
What is that exactly?
Voting no, and presuming that the haul from a year of NC/MEC re-elections and re-negotiations miraculously provides us with SWA profit sharing, Delta pay rates, and AA health care?
Ill bet your answer is "hey, ya never know". The reality is that while a rejected T/A MAY result in a higher signing bonus and even 3% COLA, it probably wont get you a DAL/UAL contract. And in the meantime, you're stuck without scope protections and sub-standard work rules, in what could be risky times.
Now I know you and the "Bravehearts" out there, feel strong by "fighting" and roaring, but add a bit of intellect and tone down the battlecry.
This should be a good read, if you have the patience. It may be good or bad, but let's "fight" when we know the full deal. Btw, you're only owed what B6 is willing to pay.
Now I have agreed with you about B6 for the past year; You lose me when you wont even wait for the T/A.
Sound reasonable?
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