767pilot

an hour worth of exercise. That's funny!

maybe he should get one of those elastic band set ups so he doesn't stress the floors <G>.

I'd hate to smell you once you got done your hour of exercise with no shower

md11phlyer

Wow, you must be a blast to fly with. Calm down there a tad, as I believe the guy was asking a serious question. I know of several guys who used to do mini-workouts in the back of the whale at Tigers.

Transatlantic flights are not that long and you shouldn't be leaving your 'post?' I've done Paris-Subic Bay in roughly 14 hours yet I would still consider a NAT crossing to be a relatively long flight. It's not his fault that you're one of the only jokers wearing that mask all the time.

Unless you've been residing in a cave, 'serious as cancer' is a common quip in the English language to convey intent. It has nothing to do with one actually having the disease or not, and certainly does not have any negative connotation toward cancer patients. If someone said 'I have to **** like a race horse,' it wouldn't mean that they would physically urinate like a farm animal, nor does it imply anything negative about horses. It just conveys the seriousness of their urge.

Ahh, my sarcasm is probably lost on your kind, put your mask back on because I'm leaving my 'post.'

blastboy

Ok, maybe I should have been more specific. I was referring to the workouts in the back of a "whale" and also I was referring to working out if there is a relief crew member and you go on break or something. They do have relief crews still, dont they? Thanks for clarifying the "serious as cancer" phrase, md11phlyer. I assumed that everyone who spoke the english language recognized the phrase. Thanks for the support, md11phlyer. I think you answered my question.

Now, to fearlessfreep....Take a friggin xanex or something, pal! Just because I value physical fitness and speding time with my wife does not mean I need to grow up, as you put it. There are some things I am unaware of in this industry which is why I am ASKING QUESTIONS, which you didn't even answer, you merely shared your biased opinion on the subject and vented on things completely unrelated. Also, do you think you're the only one who knows people who are dealing with or have died from cancer? In my previous profession, I worked with many people who were dying of cancer and we fought it together with macrobiotic diets and exercise. I think being as serious as cancer is more than appropriate in reference to my question b/c I take exercising seriously: it's the absolute best preventative medicine in the world and I know this first hand from the wonderful people I have worked with.

I might add that doing some sort of calisthenic activity every few hours increases mental awareness and sharpness. I was an exercise physiologist for 4 years and did extensive research on corporate wellness and how it increases productivity and motivation in the workplace. In Japan, some companies have MANDATORY mid-day group workouts for 1 -2 hours. A particular company has been thriving in Japan because of this. Exercise increases blood flow and O2 exchange throughout the body, including the brain (most important). When the brain is lacking O2 because of shallow breathing and poor exchange from low cardiac outputs and stroke volumes, it will not function at it's maximum potential. Doing some pushups or even a mini-yoga session in the back of the whale half way through the flight would be beneficial by keeping you alert, happy, warm and not fatigued. Carbohydrates play a role in this too but that's not the subject at hand. If you want more information, you are more than welcome to visit my website. It's just an informational site: www.biokinesis.com/breathe

FearlessFreep

So sorry to tread upon your delicate sensibilities. I stated that I workout a lot. I am a fitness fanatic myself. Would I like to get up and go work out in the middle of a 12 hour flight (the most hours that you can fly 121 with a single crew) sure, is it appropriate and professional behavior - no.

I fly a Classic, no relief crews. Your deadheading, go ahead and go knock yourself out, go work out.

Your "cancer" turn of phrase is something I have never heard before. That just might be because of a regionalism or a generational thing - so be it. I am sure that I can come up with statements that you never heard of.

You wanted to know my opinion and I told you. When you didn't hear what you wanted you got all sniveling.

I am all about having fun in my job, no other point in doing it. I do try to maintain some semblance of professionalism though.

After reviewing some of your posts makes it obvious to me that you do not have any insight into the operations of larger aircraft or the freight or ACMI world. If you did then you would not have asked the questions that you did. if you think that my post is rough then you are in for a rude awakening when you go to work in the freight world. it just isn't pretty at times.

blastboy

No...When you gave me a rude and offensive response I felt it necessary to stand up for myself. That's not sniveling. The definition of sniveling is teary eyed or running at the nose. I don't recall being sniveling. As far as my original question, I was not out of place by asking it. Was there a time when you didn't know everything? Absolutely! How did you get to where you are? Learning, taking notes, classes...Blah blah blah. But most importantly, you asked questions. So, just because I want to know about travel benefits and starting a golds gym in the aircraft during a TransAtl in a freighter, that means I have no insight and that I know nothing about flying the heavies? LOL! That's a different subject! You can't say I don't know anything about the heavies just because I am unaware of these two small policies. I grew up in an aviation family, asked my dad questions all day long. It's just now that this particular question came to my mind. I learned a lot growing up with a grandfather, dad, aunts and uncles who fly. My experience with the heavies is limited to sim time (707: 10hrs, 727: 15hrs, 747:7hrs). Nothing compared to your thousands but it was a great learning experience, nontheless. As far as a rude awakening, I don't know who you're working for but most of the chief pilots, HR folks and training captains I have met at Evergreen, Gemini, UAL, Pan Am and a dozen others have been very kind and encouraging. Far from rude. BTW, if things were going steady in midflight over the atlantic, I personally wouldn't mind wearing the mask if the capt wanted to go in the back and rip his abs up a little. Look, I don't want to get off on the wrong foot with you b/c I am on good terms with everyone here (at least I think so). If you've been flying freight for however long, great! You're the guy I want to talk to because I don't fly freight. I'd like to fly a classic with Connie, EIA or someone else which brings me to my next question: "How much longer is Connie going to be flying the old 747s?

ghilis101

fly to failure? they just picked up a few more from asia. their oldest is a 71 model and i think their newest is an 84

blastboy

71 model? Wow! I wanna fly that thing! Didnt the production of the 747-100/200 end in 1987 or something?

blastboy

I'm not trying to grill you here or make trouble but I want to share some of my insight on this. It's one of a few things I remember from my 747 training my dad gave me at Pan Am when I was 11 years old. The cabin pressure is usually maintained around what, 5000 - 6000ft. The "brain" of the oxygen system is not going to give you 100% oxygen when the cabin pressure is at 5 or 6 thousand feet. If you had the mask on for an hour, I would be very surprised if it would even register on the O2 content. Most of the air going through the mask at FL370 with a cabin pressure of 5 thousand is merely ambient air with a little bit of O2 being drizzled in; like an i.v. drip. The O2 bottles might have to be refilled once a month. As far as maintenance is concerned, filling the bottles is standard routine anyway so they're not going to be mad at any pilots because the bottles are empty. It takes a few minutes to fill them up. 100% oxygen at flight level for extended periods of time is a dangerous thing because your blood plasma can become more staurated with O2 than your hemoglobin which will make you feel high, head aches, dioriented, or even hallucinate. The O2 system will flow at 100% if cabin pressure is lost and you have to make an emergency decent. Once you reach 10,000ft, only 4 - 5 minutes have passed since your decent from FL370, not enough time to have your plasma O2 saturation superceed your hemoglobin O2 saturation. At 10,000ft. the masks come off. I'm sure I left out a couple of little details but that's O2 systems 101.

fdx727pilot

Get some high altitude training from somewhere besides bootleg sim time, and then come back. Most airline checklists have the O2 regulators in 100% during setup and normal use. The only time they might go to normal is if you go into an abnormal or emergency checklist, and the change is directed to conserve O2 and extend usable time. You may be confusing the pressure breathing function with the 100%/Normal function. As the system is so seldom used for more than a minute or two, I doubt that a Captain would think to switch to Normal, when his inconsiderate FO disappears 1/2 an hour or more. Not to mention that the quick-don masks with the inflatable harnesses tend to be uncomfortable. I know that having one on for more than a half hour for anything less than an emergency would be shear torture.

RedeyeAV8r

HHMMMMMMMM I flew fighters for almost years.......we wore 02 maks all the time (100%) I guess that explains why I am always disorented...........................or is it from the Mad Cow steak I ate in Paris a couple years back?