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goinaround 10-12-2021 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 3308019)
Good luck to them with that. Sounds like a nice lawsuit from the employees if they try to make you sign off on release of your medical records. New employees? I could see how they could make that a requirement.

Gonna get interesting for sure.

APCbot 10-12-2021 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 3307786)
First of all there is no data base of vaccines. Vaccine records are not sent to the local Health Department. I received my vaccine at a testing facility. Second, the vaccine is safe. You want to disagree? I respect your opinion and will leave you to the consequences of that action.

The federal government has mandated vaccines for companies the size of K4. You don’t have a legal argument there. That leaves you with several options that come to mind. One, you could invoke a religious objection. Two, you could make a health objection. Three, you could falsify the document. If you think for one second that K4 is going to verify something that is not verifiable you haven’t worked at K4 long enough. There is no requirement for verification and they will not be verifying anything.

K4 is simply following the rules set down by the Biden Administration. Why would they try to verify cards when there is no requirement to do so. So that they can catch somebody and then not have them available to operate a flight? Really? How long have you worked there? Another point is that people have analyzed their risk associated with death but yet they don’t take the time to research the risk of getting caught not complying? Is that because this is the first time somebody has mentioned forging a document. I guess for some people if it hasn’t appeared on the internet then it must not be true.

For the record, I am not advocating forging a document. I am advocating that everybody get a vaccine. I am also an advocate of personal choice. Kind of reminds me of when the Catholics were being persecuted when they admitted that they were Catholic. Eventually they wised up and said that they weren’t.

To answer Gollum. Why do I care I am retired? I care because I don’t like seeing you guys panic over something that is very simple to resolve. This conspiracy theory that Kalitta or a government agency would actually take the time to verify the millions of employees around the country that are submitting vaccine cards is ludicrous. You do remember how the last election went don’t you?

It literally says theyre going to verify it in the letter they sent out. Are you retired? Did you not read the letter?

I reread your post, you are retired. Yes they are going to verify it.

dera 10-12-2021 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by maxjet (Post 3308019)
Good luck to them with that. Sounds like a nice lawsuit from the employees if they try to make you sign off on release of your medical records. New employees? I could see how they could make that a requirement.

Employer absolutely can request your medical records if they want.

jhugz 10-12-2021 03:17 PM

Man, I just wish we can get this pilot group this spooled up for next contract negotiations as they are about this shot. Would be nice to get some real gains next time around.

Frank717 10-12-2021 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by jhugz (Post 3308178)
Man, I just wish we can get this pilot group this spooled up for next contract negotiations as they are about this shot. Would be nice to get some real gains next time around.

Thank You! I was thinking the same thing.
I argued here and on the line, things were going to be booming as soon as we signed the contract. Now, any of our FOs could walk into almost any airline. I hope they do, too much opportunities out there to pass up.

Darton01 10-13-2021 04:10 AM

Kalitta Training from Zero
 
Is there any information on Kalitta Charters Training from zero? The website only states that it’s available and some rates but that’s about it. I filled out the form to request more information but have not heard back.

East Aspen Dash 10-13-2021 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Darton01 (Post 3308387)
Is there any information on Kalitta Charters Training from zero? The website only states that it’s available and some rates but that’s about it. I filled out the form to request more information but have not heard back.

Kalitta Charters Training is for Kalitta family companies employees only…

Palmtree Pilot 10-13-2021 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Darton01 (Post 3308387)
Is there any information on Kalitta Charters Training from zero? The website only states that it’s available and some rates but that’s about it. I filled out the form to request more information but have not heard back.


Originally Posted by East Aspen Dash (Post 3308449)
Kalitta Charters Training is for Kalitta family companies employees only…

You might look for the 142 program to start up again in the future… It only make sense to go from zero to hero at a place that will pay for it from C152 to Baron to DA-20 to B737 to B767, B777 and B747.

maxjet 10-13-2021 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3308099)
Employer absolutely can request your medical records if they want.

A. Absolutely not. HIPAA prohibits employers from accessing patient records or insurance claims because it could result in discrimination. If an employer wants to see any of your medical information, the employer would need to receive your written permission.

This is from a recent AARP article.

maxjet 10-13-2021 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by APCbot (Post 3308061)
It literally says theyre going to verify it in the letter they sent out. Are you retired? Did you not read the letter?

I reread your post, you are retired. Yes they are going to verify it.

Q: How should employers confirm employees’ vaccination status?

A: President Biden’s announcement did not state how employers may confirm whether their employees are vaccinated. Some states have outlined that employers may request a copy of an employee’s COVID-19 vaccine card, request to view an employee’s vaccine record, or have an employee sign an attestation of vaccination. Pending further guidance from OSHA, these methods of confirming employee vaccination status are options to consider. Again, notably the federal contractor guidance limits what can be accepted as proof of vaccination status to (a) a copy of the record of immunization from a health care provider or pharmacy, a copy of the COVID-19 Vaccination Record Card (CDC Form MLS-319813_r, published on September 3, 2020), (b) a copy of medical records documenting the vaccination, (c) a copy of immunization records from a public health or State immunization information system, or (d) a copy of any other official documentation verifying vaccination with information on the vaccine name, date(s) of administration, and the name of health care professional or clinic site administering vaccine.

Q: How should employers maintain records of employees’ vaccination status and negative test results?

A: Employees’ vaccination status and test results constitute confidential medical information. This information must be kept confidential and secure, separate from an employee’s personal file.

Nothing there about an employer having permission to violate HIPAA.


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